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In regards to pot, I, and probably most others with some experience with it would agree that the limitations are primarily to do with your own perception of how your ability may be limited.
In actual fact, there's very little or no limitation upon ability. It's just a perceived state of mind.
This is generally the polar opposite of how alcohol affects one's perception of ability.

IMO, it's more probable that an experienced user of pot will behave more "normally", albeit, a little more relaxed about things than your average "normal" punter.

A new user will generally be more apprehensive about things like driving and social interactions. ..and/or they might laugh their heads off at this new and unusual feeling.
In time, and with the right attitude, they will usually get to embrace the different perceptions and discover new angles on things that they probably wouldn't have otherwise discovered.
More useful for finding the "Lennon" than the "Lenin" I suppose.

Of course some people might also use it to control predisposed conditions such as a "bad temper" or other inclinations. That's not such a bad thing either IMO, considering what's on offer.

So..it's usually not such a bad altering of mind, ..it's not physically addictive, ..it doesn't cause road accidents (and no doubt saves some from happening), nobody has ever died from it, and it can provide an empathetic view for those who really need it.i

'I didn't think the law bothered pot smokers much - only went after the dealers.' - Mantra

Well you see Mantra - that is not the case.  Where I live, our free local paper has a 'Police Beat' section.
Far and away the most reported matters relate to people being arrested for personal possession of drugs, usually but not always Pot, when stopped in their vehicles in the local area, and these are not dealers. The charges they face usually have nothing to do with commercial activity, .. nevertheless the Police are quite dedicated in taking these people through the legal system, clogging the Courts with relatively minor transgressions.  See  -  it sounds GOOD to many people who have no idea - and vote.   And - I'd have to say - most people fall into that category.
YOU might hear about the BIG busts - but you know nothing about the everyday imposts the police place on  users. That is clear.

'....but the law has to remain focussed on the bad because not only would it be too hard to police  in the workplace and on the roads, the workplace would seriously suffer. Can you imagine if our doctors, drivers, tradesmen etc. enjoyed a few puffs during their working day and the law allowed...it?..' - Mantra

Sorry Mantra - but this opinion is so typical ! -  I find it frustrating and difficult to understand,  that folk such as yourself - obviously literate and concerned individuals, can buy into such ROT.!

Can you imagine if...???

MY POINT  - no need to  IMAGINE!!???? ....silly silly silly  -  and not logical. SURELY YOU must realise?
It is ALREADY HAPPENING !!!!  Whether OR NOT the Law allows it.  It IS happening - get it?  ....the Law does not prevent it. It IS happening NOW.  THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME and HAS FOR UNCOUNTED DECADES.

People such as yourself fear legalisation for no GOOD reason.!!  The world isn't going to suddenly lapse into dreamy somnambulism- failing economies- poor productivity ...it won't go to 'pot'. -- we are already there.!!

Better to find something more socially cohesive to promote than BAD LAWS.!!!!!

Emma wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2011 at 12:55am:


I meant safer because it's organic and won't have any chemicals added to it.

Perhaps the police only target the younger pot smokers. To be caught with it in their car they would have to be committing a traffic offence or have a car with defects to be pulled over in the first place.

Maybe our doctors, bus drivers, tradesman are all stoned and I just haven't noticed because they haven't smelt.

I'm not sure if I am that straight, although it's nice to know that's the impression I give Jalene. 

'I'm not sure if I am that straight, although it's nice to know that's the impression I give Jalene.' - Mantra. 

I can really relate to ....it's nice....'cos I been there!  But - that was then.!

Now I have no public persona to display - no more 'incognito'.
THAT is one of the underestimated costs of policy -  needing to live a double life.!!
Drat the righteous, holier-than-thou policy-makers.!!!!!!!

Emma wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2011 at 9:51pm:


I wasn't referring to going incognito - just keeping an open mind (usually) when it comes to the indulgences of others.

This comment might sound straight though - but seriously when pot is smoked daily and long term (even short term in some cases) - brain dysfunction does occur. It mightn't be apparent to the person with the habit, but it's obvious to everyone else.

Hi mr Pipes - good to hear from you - and agree - 100%

Mantra - I was talking about INCOGNITO -  like I said - YOU just do not understand because you are a straight.

As 'a straight' you really cannot understand what I am saying.  No doubt you lead a busy life, happy enough with your circumstances, and blind to much that happens outside your reality. Like the rest of you  who insist this is the way to go.!!  WRONG.
You all just don't have  wide enough experience - your opinions are based on  - propaganda, profession, religion, righteousness, hate, negative experiences, anecdotes , urban myths and simple ignorance.  Any or all of the above.!
So you express on this forum the things that you do.
As is your right. No argument with that.
But to suggest you are-

just keeping an open mind (usually) when it comes to the indulgences of others. - Mantra -

What you say is clearly not the case. Your own words speak for you.
Like many folk - probably in many cases much more so than you,  the understanding isn't there because you all have one thing in common -  a narrow focus - and mostly a 'closed mind'.

thanks Mozzaok  - someone who Has experience.

I worked in a different situation  ...  and never worked whilst under the influence of Pot. I was too paranoid to do so!!  I had to be INCOGNITO.  Probably if I was not an 'employee' - but an 'independent contractor' it would have been different.

But I can't say that about alcohol. THAT was 'generally' allowed by the workplace culture where I worked.
No-one's lives were directly at risk. But - I just wasn't comfortable with it - altho others in the workplace didn't feel that way.
Not my problem - I'd wait till evening, at home. That was me.
I know - as you say - that many people worked stoned   ---- and many more  PISSED .
So it is....... Sometimes, coming back from lunch with my colleagues - I'd have a mild alco-buzz on.

I have never seen harm in the workplace from smoking -  ... but drinking?? thats another issue..

So Mr Mozzaok - tell me why you don't do it anymore. I'd be very interested  !!!   I mean -  I've gone yrs w/o - but opportunity?  no quibbles on my part. ! - and no longer being in the 'WORKFORCE!!! my restrictions are few.