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Reply #105 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:27pm

'legalise the Ferals?' - Please explain?!?? Grin

Can't address the question eh?

At least not and continue to promote your anti status. Not to worry. Mostly I think we understand. So hard to let go of one's ingrained prejudices.

Saddest of all is when one must resort to quoting (spewing) Statistics.!!As I find myself constantly reminding folk - to paraphrase S Clemens - there are Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics.

That all you can manage is blatant, or implied, denigration ( Not that I think being a Hippy is bad, just - I'm not) suggests you are running out of real responses.

I could call Muso a Meathead from the Morgue
I could call Jasignature a Whining One-eyed Deadhead

And- I've been called HIPPY, so whats so bad? ( see that as no insult ) - with PRIDE. Of course that WAS 35 yrs ago. Surprised you still consider it has some perjorative context. Not too creative hmm? Living in the Past ?

Oh - and the Ferals? send 'em to me for education yeah?
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Reply #106 - May 1^st, 2011 at 10:46am

Emma wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:27pm:

I could call Muso a Meathead from the Morgue
I could call Jasignature a Whining One-eyed Deadhead

Resorting to personal insults is evidence of losing the argument. Why are you starting to call me names? I haven't called you any names?

Feral has a double meaning. I remember a number of contracts (for a large corporation) that were under tender, and those tendering were in an auditorium at a pre-tender information session. (This was near Rockhampton, Queensland) A representative from a pest control company asked "Do you get many ferals around here"

The reply "No - they're all mostly in Mount Morgan" got a big laugh.

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Reply #107 - May 2^nd, 2011 at 1:04am

Well I would call you a 'Drug Pusher' because you ain't no Medic for starters Jalane, but that would just cut this Topic short now wouldn't it.

...its amazing how many 'laws' protect drug abusers like Jalane from orthodox and hardline Medical approaches, in this country.

So I think I'll end my effort in this discussion with this clip: Bug Powder Dust ...because we know that Jalane would like that legalised too. Grin

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Reply #108 - May 2^nd, 2011 at 4:11am

So serious -you 2 Huh

- I said I could call you a 'meathead from ...' I said I could call Jasign '..a whining deadhead,' - I didn't actually say you were!!!
IT was an ILLUSTRATION, dear boys, of how ludicrous this to-and-fro has become - calling names, posting (unseen by me) vids, expressing over and over the same 'stuff'.
Regardless of your qualifications, quotes etc I'm of the view that you are protesting WAY too much. Whats the rub?
WOD is kaput - should have been kaput - should never have reached such an extreme situation. The reason it has is obvious - $$$$$$$$$$$$. and all the corruption it engenders.
Legalisation Is about the direction and well-being of our society, not the individual well-being of any one person, and truly has been since the beginning of Prohibition. Courtesy, by the way, of the United States, and it's Director of the Agency - good ole J Edgar Hoover. The attempt to ban grog failed, thereby removing massive sources of income from the Mafia et al, and 'balance' required a substitute. tadaaaa!

AND here we are. All arguments about keeping the status quo, for reasons medical or whatever, just don't even approach the deeper, societal issues. Don't you SEE??
'cos a cross-dressing spook control freak with virtually limitless power needed to appease his secret criminal affiliates, we live in the world as we know it today.
And you say thats GOOD?
Well

Thats me - over and out.
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Reply #109 - May 2^nd, 2011 at 11:43am

muso wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 10:49pm:

Emma wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 9:28pm:

What u say ? Muso. You're the expert yeah?

No, I'm not an expert. I just refer to Medical Research conducted by experts, because it makes more sense that speaking to people with a vested interest in legalising marijuana.

Waaay back at the start of this thread, I stated I didn't want marijuana legalised, so I hope you're not dismissing me as a 'vested interest'. Just a realist.

I don't belive it is 'harmless' as such, but that the harm it can do is very minor. Sure it'll harm your motivation if used regularly, but this is reversible within a very short timeframe of abstaining. The very minor propeties of 'addictiveness' mean that this is easly acheived. The only other harm that I can think of is from smoking it - which is easily overcome by vaporising or eating it instead. The problems linked to alcohol, such as assaults and accidents are vastly lower with weed - except when dope is used in conjunction with alcohol.

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Reply #110 - May 2^nd, 2011 at 3:21pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 6:26am:

I'm sorry Jalane,
didn't realise you were a Computer
and needed the information punched into you.

...as a once Privatised Nurse, its amazing how many drug-addicts ran back to the comfort of the Public system, when they had male Nurses like me who really did "sound up as if we had a pair" - didn't put up with their crap and squeezed the living hell out of them ...along with the money that they paid us to do such a professional job.
I've seen too many innocent people being killed due to the actions of drug and alcohol users to put up with such 'excuses'.

I call BS.
Even better, sanctimonious, self righteous BS.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Legalisation of pot? Reply #111 - May 2^nd, 2011 at 8:34pm Forget pot! If this topic is anything to go by .. we ought to start looking at pots and kettles.
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Reply #112 - May 2^nd, 2011 at 8:54pm

Emma wrote on May 2^nd, 2011 at 4:11am:

AND here we are. All arguments about keeping the status quo, for reasons medical or whatever, just don't even approach the deeper, societal issues. Don't you SEE??
'cos a cross-dressing spook control freak with virtually limitless power needed to appease his secret criminal affiliates, we live in the world as we know it today.
And you say thats GOOD?
Well

I think I see. Could you read that in the morning and translate it into English for me?

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Legalisation of pot? Reply #113 - May 2^nd, 2011 at 9:20pm Why don't you read it in the morning and translate it into Muso.
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Legalisation of pot? Reply #114 - May 2^nd, 2011 at 9:26pm And Lisa - I'd have to say for once you said something approaching sentience.!!! " ..we ought to start looking at pots and kettles." Its easy when you think about it.
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Reply #115 - May 5^th, 2011 at 2:07pm

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A desperate US father gave his son cannabis oil to ease the pain of a life-threatening tumour, and now credits the drug with helping save his son's life, reports the Daily Mail.
Shortly before his second birthday, Cash Hyde was diagnosed with a serious brain tumour.

For six weeks Cash was regularly misdiagnosed with glandular fever, but looking at his ill son, his father Mike Hyde knew it was worse.

"It feels like he's dying in my arms," said Mr Hyde. "We need to take him somewhere else."

Doctors did a CAT scan and found a 4.5cm tumour wrapped around Cash's optic nerve.

They were able to remove just ten per cent of the growth in surgery and the toddler had to undergo severe chemotherapy to reduce the rest of it.

Cash's terrified parents, Mike and Kalli from Missoula, Montana, were repeatedly told their son would probably die.

The treatment had drastic side effects on Cash, including seizures and a blood infection, and left him so weak he could not lift his head.

Mr Hyde said his son had no will to eat for months, and was too sick to eat solid foods for 40 days.

As he watched his son dying before his eyes, the desperate father decided to look for another solution - medical marijuana.

Cash's doctors refused to even discuss the option with Mr Hyde, so he got authorisation from somewhere else.

Asking the doctors to wean Cash off the strong anti-nausea drugs, Mr Hyde secretly administered small doses of cannabis oil through his son's feeding tube.

The effect was almost instant.

"He hadn't eaten a thing in 40 days - and, it was really incredible to watch him take a bite of a piece of cheese. It shows that he wants to live."

Cash went through his last bout of chemotherapy with no anti-nausea medication.

Mr Hyde said the doctors were amazed.

"I wanted to tell them 'hey, he's on cannabis oil' but I was afraid they'd take it away from him."

Cash is now back home and cancer free, playing with his older brother Colty.

Medical marijuana is legal in some US states including Montana, but its use for children is extremely rare.

The US federal government and states regularly clash over differing laws regarding the medical use of the drug.

Mr Hyde told local TV news station KXLY "It's very controversial, it's very scary. But, there's nothing more scary than losing your child."

http://www.news.com.au/world/pot-cured-brain-cancer-toddler-cash-hydes-father-gave-him-cannabis-oil-to-treat-tumour/story-e6frfkz0-1226050296628

OK, so the report is written a bit crappily (as is par for the course on news.com) The weed didn't 'cure' the brain tumour as is rpeorted, but it is one of, if not THE best appetite stimulants around. You can't fight if you have no energy, so it may very well have been the differnce between life and death.

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Legalisation of pot? Reply #116 - May 5^th, 2011 at 6:26pm So Mr Pipes - waay back you said you were against legalisation. Is that still the case?
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Legalisation of pot? Reply #117 - May 6^th, 2011 at 10:48am Emma wrote on May 5^th, 2011 at 6:26pm: So Mr Pipes - waay back you said you were against legalisation. Is that still the case? Yep, because with legalisation comes heavy taxation, and even heavier penalties for those caught 'evading tax' a.k.a growing their own.
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Reply #118 - May 6^th, 2011 at 11:34am

... wrote on May 5^th, 2011 at 2:07pm:

OK, so the report is written a bit crappily (as is par for the course on news.com) The weed didn't 'cure' the brain tumour as is rpeorted, but it is one of, if not THE best appetite stimulants around. You can't fight if you have no energy, so it may very well have been the differnce between life and death.

Poppycock. Any of the tetracyclic antidepressants such as Mazindol or Amoxapine, or even Chlorpromazine are far more effective than smoking weed.

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Reply #119 - May 6^th, 2011 at 11:37am

muso wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 11:34am:

... wrote on May 5^th, 2011 at 2:07pm:

OK, so the report is written a bit crappily (as is par for the course on news.com) The weed didn't 'cure' the brain tumour as is rpeorted, but it is one of, if not THE best appetite stimulants around. You can't fight if you have no energy, so it may very well have been the differnce between life and death.

Poppycock. Any of the tetracyclic antidepressants such as Mazindol or Amoxapine, or even Chlorpromazine are far more effective than smoking weed.

LOL. err OK, and they sound so cheap and readily available.

Have many side effects do they?

Your not prepared to give an inch are you? Grin

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