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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: Goverments & CBAs Reply #75 - Dec 29^th, 2010 at 8:20am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 28^th, 2010 at 10:58pm: With the greatest respect Jack, you're as thick as two short planks sideways. It'd be like trying to explain advanced algebra to a monkey. My monies on the monkey.
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Reply #76 - Dec 29^th, 2010 at 8:20am

viewpoint wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 7:22am:

LW you can’t teach a pig to play the piano…….

Be careful, they're shouting again and the colouring book is out.

dont forget the c& p.. ha.ha..

what are those little wires called that they put across the roads from time to time.. sometimes only on one way traffic lanes..

costing.

benefit.

or analysis.

or maybe just for the hell of it and keeping someone in a job.

I find this topic somewhat irrelevant.. it wouldnt matter how much was spent on CBA.. it wouldnt make any difference to the outcome to the tax payer..they would still get stuck with paying for white-elephants. stop start tunnels to nowhere.CBDs that never get off the plans.

yet all manage to cost fortunes.. that would be better spent on hospitals.or even police stations..instead they close them to pay for white-elephants.. andddddddddddddddddddddd.

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Reply #77 - Dec 29^th, 2010 at 8:23am

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 6:49am:

Exerpt ...

The NBN was costed, and it seems to be either $43b or $27b depending on your accountant, but she can hardly complain that it wasn’t costed.

Tony Abbott must have said $43b a hundred times, and The Australian surely reported it, at least every other paper did.

However no cost-benefit analysis was done, which is what she might be talking about, but that is also true of every other government and opposition policy.

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Cost-benefit analysis is never done on policy, otherwise most of the decisions of the Howard government would have been still-born.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/09/13/the-australians-election-coverage/

If ANYONE can find evidence to DISPUTE the claim in this quote, I'd be prepared to listen

Otherwise, might I suggest a new strategy in trashing a National Broadband Network, new technology - and the Government's determination to deliver on 2007 and 2010 election policy

(Admittedly, finding a major infrastructure project started by the Howard Government may be quite a chore in itself)

Well ...

THAT was certainly a "conversation stopper"

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Reply #78 - Dec 29^th, 2010 at 8:37am

(Admittedly, finding a major infrastructure project started by the Howard Government may be quite a chore in itself

paying off a bloody HUGE DEBT... was a CHORE they were pretty proud of.

and by golly I bet the rudd/gillard mob were glad they did..not that they have ever said so!!...

but just think what crap we would be in if the Libs hadnt bothered and just added to the bloody HUGE DEBT instead.

and built monuments to nowhere.or green loans. plaques on schools.
or waste watch oopp.. grocery watch .fuel watch NBN watch. hospital watch. ETS watch,... so much they could have spent our hard earned money on.. silly billies.

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Reply #79 - Dec 29^th, 2010 at 8:43am

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 8:20am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 28^th, 2010 at 10:58pm:

With the greatest respect Jack, you're as thick as two short planks sideways.

It'd be like trying to explain advanced algebra to a monkey.

My monies on the monkey.

You think a CBA is the same as Treasury costing so you must be the monkey.

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Reply #80 - Dec 29^th, 2010 at 8:49am

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 8:23am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 6:49am:

Exerpt ...

The NBN was costed, and it seems to be either $43b or $27b depending on your accountant, but she can hardly complain that it wasn’t costed.

Tony Abbott must have said $43b a hundred times, and The Australian surely reported it, at least every other paper did.

However no cost-benefit analysis was done, which is what she might be talking about, but that is also true of every other government and opposition policy.

Quote:

Cost-benefit analysis is never done on policy, otherwise most of the decisions of the Howard government would have been still-born.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/09/13/the-australians-election-coverage/

If ANYONE can find evidence to DISPUTE the claim in this quote, I'd be prepared to listen

Otherwise, might I suggest a new strategy in trashing a National Broadband Network, new technology - and the Government's determination to deliver on 2007 and 2010 election policy

(Admittedly, finding a major infrastructure project started by the Howard Government may be quite a chore in itself)

Well ...

THAT was certainly a "conversation stopper"

Buzz it is no good arguing with LW he won't admitted that he is wrong.

You beat him on Yahoo with a argument and he still didn't admitt he was wrong.

Look back at the last two and half pages he is the only one saying there should be a CBA done on the NBN.

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Reply #81 - Dec 29^th, 2010 at 8:53am

codswal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 8:37am:

(Admittedly, finding a major infrastructure project started by the Howard Government may be quite a chore in itself

paying off a bloody HUGE DEBT... was a CHORE they were pretty proud of.

and by golly I bet the rudd/gillard mob were glad they did..not that they have ever said so!!...

but just think what crap we would be in if the Libs hadnt bothered and just added to the bloody HUGE DEBT instead.

and built monuments to nowhere.or green loans. plaques on schools.
or waste watch oopp.. grocery watch .fuel watch NBN watch. hospital watch. ETS watch,... so much they could have spent our hard earned money on.. silly billies.

That "huge debt" was FAR less than the revenue raised by the sale of Australia's airports, gold reserves and national telco

But BACK "on topic" ...

Where is the evidence of ANY Howard Government policy being held accountable by a Cost Benefit Analysis ?

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Reply #83 - Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:14am

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:01am:

and the shrill little 'girl' continues to trumpet her complete lack of knowledge on how major decisions are made in govt.

No goverment has ever done a CBA on any policy, infrastructure or project.

They have done costing which is completing different to CBAs.

Can't you get that through you thick head.

If you think they have done a CBA lets see it don't keep us in the dark.

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Reply #84 - Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:18am

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:01am:

and the shrill little 'girl' continues to trumpet her complete lack of knowledge on how major decisions are made in govt.

You can come on with all the gay jibes you LIKE, as an attempt at diversion
It ALL washes over me

And it DOESN'T answer the question ...i

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Where is the evidence of ANY Howard Government policy being held accountable by a Cost Benefit Analysis ?

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Reply #85 - Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:21am

John S wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 8:49am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 8:23am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 6:49am:

Exerpt ...

The NBN was costed, and it seems to be either $43b or $27b depending on your accountant, but she can hardly complain that it wasn’t costed.

Tony Abbott must have said $43b a hundred times, and The Australian surely reported it, at least every other paper did.

However no cost-benefit analysis was done, which is what she might be talking about, but that is also true of every other government and opposition policy.

Quote:

Cost-benefit analysis is never done on policy, otherwise most of the decisions of the Howard government would have been still-born.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/09/13/the-australians-election-coverage/

If ANYONE can find evidence to DISPUTE the claim in this quote, I'd be prepared to listen

Otherwise, might I suggest a new strategy in trashing a National Broadband Network, new technology - and the Government's determination to deliver on 2007 and 2010 election policy

(Admittedly, finding a major infrastructure project started by the Howard Government may be quite a chore in itself)

Well ...

THAT was certainly a "conversation stopper"

Buzz it is no good arguing with LW he won't admitted that he is wrong.

You beat him on Yahoo with a argument and he still didn't admitt he was wrong.

Look back at the last two and half pages he is the only one saying there should be a CBA done on the NBN.

Indeed !

It's all a bit "deja vu"

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Reply #86 - Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:29am

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:18am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:01am:

and the shrill little 'girl' continues to trumpet her complete lack of knowledge on how major decisions are made in govt.

You can come on with all the gay jibes you LIKE, as an attempt at diversion
It ALL washes over me

Where is the gay jibe?

Just a tad precious aren't we?

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Reply #87 - Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:34am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:29am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:18am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:01am:

and the shrill little 'girl' continues to trumpet her complete lack of knowledge on how major decisions are made in govt.

You can come on with all the gay jibes you LIKE, as an attempt at diversion
It ALL washes over me

Where is the gay jibe?

Just a tad precious aren't we?

And the English bigot can't answer the question EITHER

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Reply #88 - Dec 29^th, 2010 at 11:34am

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:34am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:29am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:18am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 29^th, 2010 at 9:01am:

and the shrill little 'girl' continues to trumpet her complete lack of knowledge on how major decisions are made in govt.

You can come on with all the gay jibes you LIKE, as an attempt at diversion
It ALL washes over me

Where is the gay jibe?

Just a tad precious aren't we?

And the English bigot can't answer the question EITHER

He can't tell me what's wrong with my example of CBA.

He must be a "GREAT ACCOUNTANT" then

buzz ever notice the pommy bigot has never said what university he went to.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Goverments & CBAs Reply #89 - Dec 29^th, 2010 at 11:37am You never asked. The University of Durham in the UK. What the bugger has that got to do with anything? It's pretty obvious you are as thick as mince though.
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Question: Should the Goverment of the day do a CBA on their Policies
Yes all Goverment 5 (38.5%) Not any Goverment 2 (15.4%) Only the Labor Goverments 0 (0.0%) Not any Liberal Goverments 0 (0.0%) Goverment doing CBA is all B/S 6 (46.2%) Total votes: 13 « Created by: John S on: Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:50am »