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Reply #180 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:04pm

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 30^th, 2010 at 4:40pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 30^th, 2010 at 1:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 30^th, 2010 at 11:14am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 30^th, 2010 at 9:23am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 30^th, 2010 at 9:18am:

When i spend $80,000 on a car i do an effective CBA - at least in my head or on paper.

when i spend $5 on a burger i dont give it a second thought.

SCALE does affect things.

You spend $80,000 on a car? OMG...you're not one of those 65 year old mid-life crisis 30km/hr Mercedes drivers are you? Help.

I'm happy you mentioned that you do a CBA in your head or on paper. I'm sure most of us do the same thing: where we can appreciate in our heads the benefits of new infrastructure, especially when it has to do with technology. Like you said, not all CBA's should be done on paper, and some are just common sense.

hardly... a 46yo (when i got my FPV-GT) and i am the other end of the 30km/hr brigade.

when u r spending $43B... doing a CBA in ur head is unacceptable. plus when i am spending $80,000 on a car i am spening my money, and my money alone. if i was spending my company's money - ie not ALL my own money - a proper CBA woudl be done. and in this case the car would not be bought. How you can compare $80K and $43B is beyond me!

because money's worth is relative.

For me, $80,000 is is 1.14 my income. It's a LOT of money for me.
For a government, $37,400,000,000 is 0.17 their annual revenue (taking 05/06 listing from a quick google search). Now..I'm not 100% sure but it isn't a one lump sum. If we are to spread it over the lifetime of the project... 4.16 billion per year over 9 years. Hence it's 0.02 of annual revenue per year for 9 years.

Now, comparing that back to me... that's $1400. $26 per week.

What were you saying about not caring for paying for a burger?

Relative.

Wink

PS: Take this as light humour, obviously.

LOL

It is of course a joke your post.

The give away was when you mislaid your decomal point, with your calcualtion of $37.4 billion being only 0.17 of annual revenue of around $295 billion.

You meant to say 17% (actually it's closer to 13%), but you tried to downplay the real percentage.

I won't dignify this with an actual response. Go back to year 9 maths pls.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Goverments & CBAs Reply #181 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:10pm It certainly is a white elephant. Anyone remember we said this about Fuelwatch? How did that go? Great guns - real value for our money wasn't it.
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Goverments & CBAs Reply #182 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:12pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:10pm: It certainly is a white elephant. Anyone remember we said this about Fuelwatch? How did that go? Great guns - real value for our money wasn't it. Not your money. I'm enjoying the fact you are comparing Australia's largest infrastructure project with a website. Bravo.
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Reply #183 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:19pm

It was my money actually - in 2008 my wife and I were paying an obscene combined amount of $8k per month in tax.

Pissed against a wall by a terrible one-term Government.

Now they want to build an NBN which has far too many non-dollar benefits.

Too many of the 'benefits' are social policy - I couldn't give a bugger about social policy.
Dollars - that is what counts.

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Reply #184 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:21pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:19pm:

It was my money actually - in 2008 my wife and I were paying an obscene combined amount of $8k per month in tax.

Pissed against a wall by a terrible one-term Government.

Now they want to build an NBN which has far too many non-dollar benefits.

Too many of the 'benefits' are social policy - I couldn't give a bugger about social policy.
Dollars - that is what counts.

Thank you for the $8k. But being you're not a citizen of your country once it entered our coffers it ceased being your money

Really appreciate the investment you made. Would you like a gold sticker?

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Goverments & CBAs Reply #185 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:21pm Do you not understand WHY we pay so much less in tax in the United States?? Does it not compute that the Government doesn't go out of its way for social projects?? hence we dont need the money to pay for it.
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Reply #186 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:22pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:21pm:

Do you not understand WHY we pay so much less in tax in the United States??

Does it not compute that the Government doesn't go out of its way for social projects?? hence we dont need the money to pay for it.

I also understand why your country has so many entrenched issues socially.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Goverments & CBAs Reply #187 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:29pm It's not my country. But my point still stands, the United States is the closest nation to the free market economy we have in this world. Hence CBA's would be the rule and in the USA we do not embark upon social large scale spending. Hence why have lower sales tax, lower income tax and a higher standard of living.
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Reply #188 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:35pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:29pm:

It's not my country.

But my point still stands, the United States is the closest nation to the free market economy we have in this world.

Hence CBA's would be the rule and in the USA we do not embark upon social large scale spending.

Hence why have lower sales tax, lower income tax and a higher standard of living.

Actually, you don't have a higher standard of living.
http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/HDR_2010_EN_Table1.pdf

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aussiefree2ride Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3538	Re: Goverments & CBAs Reply #189 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:38pm Looks like the dodgy tards are still afraid of the truth coming out in a CBA.
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Goverments & CBAs Reply #190 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:39pm aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:38pm: Looks like the dodgy tards are still afraid of the truth coming out in a CBA. Good of you to post some utter rubbish aussie Always entertaining.
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aussiefree2ride Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3538	Re: Goverments & CBAs Reply #191 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:41pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:39pm: aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:38pm: Looks like the dodgy tards are still afraid of the truth coming out in a CBA. Good of you to post some utter rubbish aussie Always entertaining. Well, don`t run & hide from the CBA, if you aren`t afraid.
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Reply #192 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:42pm

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:39pm:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:38pm:

Looks like the dodgy tards are still afraid of the truth coming out in a CBA.

Good of you to post some utter rubbish aussie

Always entertaining.

Well, don`t run & hide from the CBA, if you aren`t afraid.

Oh? Would you like for me to personally go and write one up for you? I can if you like? You'll need to learn how to read first, of course.

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aussiefree2ride Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3538	Re: Goverments & CBAs Reply #193 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:42pm Which reminds me, this "poll" is totally pissant BS, and wet.
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Goverments & CBAs Reply #194 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:50pm aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 1:42pm: Which reminds me, this "poll" is totally pissant BS, and wet. Seems to share similar attributes to anything that comes out of you.
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Question: Should the Goverment of the day do a CBA on their Policies
Yes all Goverment 5 (38.5%) Not any Goverment 2 (15.4%) Only the Labor Goverments 0 (0.0%) Not any Liberal Goverments 0 (0.0%) Goverment doing CBA is all B/S 6 (46.2%) Total votes: 13 « Created by: John S on: Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:50am »