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Reply #120 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:35pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:31pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:03pm:

LOL

'Boat People'

Always makes me laugh.

At school it used to be

"Mate can you clean up that mess?"
"What? Do I look like a fking boat person to you?"

At the end of the day, we all have a bit of a laugh about these people when all is said and done.

You must have ROARED laughing over events at Christmas Island, yesterday ?

No I think it is tragic and I was saddened to see this incident.

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Reply #121 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:40pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:24pm:

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You are confusing taking in refugees, with accepting ones who arrive here by boat.

how so? over 98% of those who arrive by boat are accepted into Australia as refugees, and have been for decades.

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How do you think those in camps around the world waiting to be placed feel knowing had they skipped the process and just continued making their way by boat or plane they would be given priority.

you infer some sort of orderly line exists, it does not, when people are fleeing for their lives they take whatever action is necessary to survive, if it ever happens to you, you'll be the first to whine if you manage to make it to a safe haven but then are moved on as you dont suit the criteria of some people in that country who dont want you there.

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It annoys me because they are queue jumpers.

Yes a nice little dity that grew during the Howard years of xenophobia, people like you disgust me, I hope you are displaced one day so as you can see how it feels, go and sit in a camp in indonesia and see how you like it.

You miss my point, I am not anti refugee. I am happy to take them, but I feel we should be taking the ones who have gone through all the correct channels in order to achieve that status.

If someone has been in an overseas camp for years waiting for placement, sorry if I think they deserve a spot here before someone who comes here illegally by boat or plane.

They are the ones who deserve to come here, the ones who have respected the rules and gone about it properly.

I'd be pissed off no end to know I was in a camp following the rules, only to know that had I bypassed them and continued on I would have got a free pass.

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Re: Dead boat people
Reply #122 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:45pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:35pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:33pm:

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Like I said, I'd take his opinion over yours. You grew up there did you?

I'll bet andrei's wife's best friends cousin twice removed married a person who new someone who worked with someone who married a brother of a person who's step mother used to know someone who did grow up there though.

Another really helpful well thought-out comment.

Remind us again why you think we should take in thousands of shoe shiners?

Why not ?we let in worse than that, even you got the nod.
did your passport say shoe shiner or knob polisher?i

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Re: Dead boat people
Reply #123 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:53pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:31pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:03pm:

LOL

'Boat People'

Always makes me laugh.

At school it used to be

"Mate can you clean up that mess?"
"What? Do I look like a fking boat person to you?"

At the end of the day, we all have a bit of a laugh about these people when all is said and done.

You must have ROARED laughing over events at Christmas Island, yesterday ?

So low, such a desperate, grubby little tactic. Sad

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Re: Dead boat people
Reply #124 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:54pm

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You miss my point, I am not anti refugee. I am happy to take them, but I feel we should be taking the ones who have gone through all the correct channels in order to achieve that status.

And you miss mine.
There is NO orderly queue.
Do you really think people sit in refo camps with a number waiting their turn? please answer that.
Some people in camps will never leave that camp, some will spend only months there, there is NO queue.

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Reply #125 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:58pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 9:58am:

I refuse to see how people passing through safe, third countries are fleeing persecution.

Why are they picking Australia in the Asia Pacific region and not other countries?

Answer - living standards, social welfare system and Government policy.

Do you believe Laos, Indonesia, Thailand would give these people the social welfare we provide them?

No. Therefore, if they are passing through safe countries and then going on to Australia - how is that not cherry picking where you want to go??

This is too deep for the tardies to understand Andrei. At least the importation of cheap labour has risen sharply under the ALP.

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Reply #126 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 1:06pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 9:55am:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 8:46am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 8:15am:

Welcome to the Annual Australian Grave Dancing Event
I don't know whose to blame
I don't know what has happened to my country over the past 20 years
All I know is we are not the same people we were.
I AM ASHAMED Cry

You ought to be ashamed of the weak Government policy that encouraged people smuggling. These tragic deaths, and untold others lay at the feet of the ALP. Don`t try do suffocate these objections by low life accusations ov insincerity, of these criticisms. These deaths must be stopped, you won`t silence the call to stop these deaths, no matter how politically inconvenient it is to you!

Frankly Aussie
Go F@#K yourself
I refuse to use this to debate policy or ideology.

Well take a sensible, practical stance for once. Your prescious pissant posturing, and that of the sheeple of your stamp is costing lives. Wake up & try to pull your head out of your klacker, people are dying!

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Reply #127 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 1:09pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:54pm:

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You miss my point, I am not anti refugee. I am happy to take them, but I feel we should be taking the ones who have gone through all the correct channels in order to achieve that status.

And you miss mine.
There is NO orderly queue.
Do you really think people sit in refo camps with a number waiting their turn? please answer that.
Some people in camps will never leave that camp, some will spend only months there, there is NO queue.

Skippy, I`m amazed that you have the inteligence to digest food.

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Reply #128 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 1:10pm

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 1:09pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:54pm:

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You miss my point, I am not anti refugee. I am happy to take them, but I feel we should be taking the ones who have gone through all the correct channels in order to achieve that status.

And you miss mine.
There is NO orderly queue.
Do you really think people sit in refo camps with a number waiting their turn? please answer that.
Some people in camps will never leave that camp, some will spend only months there, there is NO queue.

Skippy, I`m amazed that you have the inteligence to digest food.

At least we dont have that worry with you, we all know how well you swallow, old man.

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Reply #129 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 1:17pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:54pm:

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You miss my point, I am not anti refugee. I am happy to take them, but I feel we should be taking the ones who have gone through all the correct channels in order to achieve that status.

And you miss mine.
There is NO orderly queue.
Do you really think people sit in refo camps with a number waiting their turn? please answer that.
Some people in camps will never leave that camp, some will spend only months there, there is NO queue.

I dont care that there isnt a cue, it doesnt excuse the fact there should be one.

I want fairness and equality in the process, and as it stands there is none.

I dont see it as fair for those who make it here get priority over those that were not as fortunate.

You are the champion of fairness and equality, how about applying to your own cause as a whole and not selectivley.

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Re: Dead boat people
Reply #130 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 1:29pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:10pm:

It's about the type of people and quality when you think about it, not nation.

I worked with a guy in accounting originally from Sri Lanka. When we discussed the situation the other year his comment, and I directly quote (as I recall) -

"Those Sri Lankans that you see in the news in the boats are crap Lankans. I wouldn't mix with them in Sri Lanka so I'd be damned if I am going to mix with them in Australia. They are failures. They leave Sri Lanka because they fail, they want it easy and they don't like our system. Australia is stupid to take them, in Sri Lanka we just stay amazed that Australia gets sucked in and believes their bullshit stories. They are crap Lankans and thats all there is to it"

I'd take a Sri Lankans view of his own people above any of yours.

I bet he was not a member of the persecuted tamil minority.

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Reply #132 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 1:54pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 15^th, 2010 at 8:25pm:

lefty voters - this is one early consequence of your retarded votes.

you live in a fairy land, others don't though

These are quotes from the resident bible basher.

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Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 2:21pm:

chuck them back in the sinking boat they came over in and tow them well out to sea.

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Re: Dead boat people
Reply #133 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 2:12pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 1:37pm:

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I dont care that there isnt a cue, it doesnt excuse the fact there should be one

Is it the fault of those escaping a despot regime or an invaded countries fault a queue does not exist?
Why shouldn't those people try and make a better life for themselves?
Wouldn't you?

Anyone would actually, but what does that show really.
It still doesn't mean our government should be aiding foreign criminal people smuggling gangs in their illegal activities.

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Reply #134 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 2:36pm

Verge wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 1:17pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 12:54pm:

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You miss my point, I am not anti refugee. I am happy to take them, but I feel we should be taking the ones who have gone through all the correct channels in order to achieve that status.

And you miss mine.
There is NO orderly queue.
Do you really think people sit in refo camps with a number waiting their turn? please answer that.
Some people in camps will never leave that camp, some will spend only months there, there is NO queue.

I dont care that there isnt a cue, it doesnt excuse the fact there should be one.

I want fairness and equality in the process, and as it stands there is none.

I dont see it as fair for those who make it here get priority over those that were not as fortunate.

You are the champion of fairness and equality, how about applying to your own cause as a whole and not selectivley.

verge there is a queue.. or at least a system.. we take something like 30.000 refugees a year..like all other countries we take our share... where do you think we get them from?????

what the system of intake is I wouldnt know but if they all came by boat.. then it would be very selective and up to the people smugglers to choose who we take..

and I dont see that as being the case.

I would imagine all thesegroups that run these camps would have a certain say in who comes.. otherwise we would get them all from one country and we know that is not the case..

we take our share we do it the legal way.. for anyone to say there isnt a queue!!!!!.. call it what you like.. a system of choice..

is being particularly blindfolded, stupid, or both

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