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Question: End mandatory detention

Too bloody right,yes    
  8 (66.7%)
I'm xenophobic, no    
  3 (25.0%)
Who cares, not me    
  1 (8.3%)
whats in it for me    
  0 (0.0%)




Total votes: 12
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Dec 14th, 2010 at 1:12pm
 
Human rights body blasts detention facilities


The Australian Human Rights Commission is calling on the Federal Government to immediately stop housing asylum seekers at a Darwin motel.

In Darwin, asylum seekers are being held at the immigration detention centre, the Airport Lodge and the Asti Motel in the centre of town.

Following a series of riots and a break out at the detention centre, the commission inspected all three immigration facilities in September.

Commission president Catherine Branson, QC, says the Asti Motel is not an appropriate place to be held in detention, particularly for children.

"When we were there, there were unaccompanied minors who had never left the Asti Motel," she said.

"It's small, it's cramped."

She said a number of asylum seekers have attempted self harm.

During the visit, she says the commission found 20 per cent of asylum seekers had been in detention for more than nine months.

"Lengthy and indefinite detention has very bad impacts on people's mental health and particularly children," she said.

She is calling for an immediate end to mandatory detention.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/14/3092900.htm?section=justin


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Reply #1 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 1:26pm
 
Human rights body blasts detention facilities


The Australian Human Rights Commission is calling on the Federal Government to immediately stop housing asylum seekers at a Darwin motel.

In Darwin, asylum seekers are being held at the immigration detention centre, the Airport Lodge and the Asti Motel in the centre of town.

Following a series of riots and a break out at the detention centre, the commission inspected all three immigration facilities in September.

Commission president Catherine Branson, QC, says the Asti Motel is not an appropriate place to be held in detention, particularly for children.

"When we were there, there were unaccompanied minors who had never left the Asti Motel," she said.

"It's small, it's cramped."

She said a number of asylum seekers have attempted self harm.

During the visit, she says the commission found 20 per cent of asylum seekers had been in detention for more than nine months.

"Lengthy and indefinite detention has very bad impacts on people's mental health and particularly children," she said.

She is calling for an immediate end to mandatory detention.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/14/3092900.htm?section=justin


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Reply #2 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 1:42pm
 
What a piss weak poll woody.
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Reply #3 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 1:44pm
 
How about we just send them straight home to their home country then quick smart if they think the way we deal with our immigration process is not to their liking.
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Reply #4 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 1:48pm
 
aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 1:42pm:
What a piss weak poll woody.


I set the poll,as requested, are you the one who voted no but was afraid to say so?
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Reply #5 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 2:21pm
 

chuck them back in the sinking boat they came over in and tow them well out to sea.
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Reply #6 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 2:22pm
 
So the parents broke out of detention and LEFT their children behind?

Or did the parents put their children on a smuggler's boat by themselves??
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Reply #7 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 3:10pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 2:21pm:
chuck them back in the sinking boat they came over in and tow them well out to sea.



Bit difficult if it's a Qantas a380
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____ wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 3:10pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 2:21pm:
chuck them back in the sinking boat they came over in and tow them well out to sea.



Bit difficult if it's a Qantas a380

Oh but the plane people are different dontcha know? besides thats how sprint got here himself.
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Reply #9 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:00pm
 
I know people who have not just attempted but committed self harm.
I also indirectly know people who have committed suicide.
The living standards and general filth that some people survive in around Darwin i'm sure is a step down from the Asti motel. People of all races continue the cycle of neglect and dysfunction in Darwin and around the country because society does not give a rats (which is normal, as it is a constant the world over). Some have survived through severe trauma that is most definitely comparable to any refugee/immigrant. Its almost like the advocates want us to believe that psychological issues only exist inside the fence. We should be that guilty about the quality of our community’s that at the very sound of a tear drop we should all hang our heads in shame. We here in Australia are that good that once they land on our soil these issues surly have to be our fault, the human condition has absolutely nothing to do with it. Yes this area needs some attention, what it doesen’t need is more extremism.

What do we replace mandatory detention with? And who is going to be responsible for it?
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Reply #10 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:07pm
 
Plus please explain what xenophobia has to do with processing and detention? We are serving their human rights by processing them, detention is a fairly standard part of processing across the world is it not? What about a governments responsibility towards its current citizens... oh i forgot, we're all terrible xenophobes.
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Reply #11 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:27pm
 
jame-e wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:07pm:
Plus please explain what xenophobia has to do with processing and detention? We are serving their human rights by processing them, detention is a fairly standard part of processing across the world is it not? What about a governments responsibility towards its current citizens... oh i forgot, we're all terrible xenophobes.



how about asking all Greenies to take responsibility for them.. I have often thought its up to the bleeding hearts to open their homes and their wallets however they never seem to put that idea into a policy motion..

surely bobbys got room for a family or two.
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Reply #12 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:38pm
 
codswal wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:27pm:
jame-e wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:07pm:
Plus please explain what xenophobia has to do with processing and detention? We are serving their human rights by processing them, detention is a fairly standard part of processing across the world is it not? What about a governments responsibility towards its current citizens... oh i forgot, we're all terrible xenophobes.



how about asking all Greenies to take responsibility for them.. I have often thought its up to the bleeding hearts to open their homes and their wallets however they never seem to put that idea into a policy motion..

surely bobbys got room for a family or two.



I'm happy to put money into ending mandatory sentencing, if you pay for the open ended war in Afghanistan, that probably caused some of these refugees in the first place.

And it is curious to note, compassion to fellow humans is now bleeding hearts to the heartless. So why do you support the afghan war again?
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Reply #13 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:46pm
 
____ wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:38pm:
codswal wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:27pm:
jame-e wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:07pm:
Plus please explain what xenophobia has to do with processing and detention? We are serving their human rights by processing them, detention is a fairly standard part of processing across the world is it not? What about a governments responsibility towards its current citizens... oh i forgot, we're all terrible xenophobes.



how about asking all Greenies to take responsibility for them.. I have often thought its up to the bleeding hearts to open their homes and their wallets however they never seem to put that idea into a policy motion..

surely bobbys got room for a family or two.



I'm happy to put money into ending mandatory sentencing, if you pay for the open ended war in Afghanistan, that probably caused some of these refugees in the first place.

And it is curious to note, compassion to fellow humans is now bleeding hearts to the heartless. So why do you support the afghan war again?


How and replaced by what?
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Reply #14 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 5:02pm
 
jame-e wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:46pm:
____ wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:38pm:
codswal wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:27pm:
jame-e wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 4:07pm:
Plus please explain what xenophobia has to do with processing and detention? We are serving their human rights by processing them, detention is a fairly standard part of processing across the world is it not? What about a governments responsibility towards its current citizens... oh i forgot, we're all terrible xenophobes.



how about asking all Greenies to take responsibility for them.. I have often thought its up to the bleeding hearts to open their homes and their wallets however they never seem to put that idea into a policy motion..

surely bobbys got room for a family or two.



I'm happy to put money into ending mandatory sentencing, if you pay for the open ended war in Afghanistan, that probably caused some of these refugees in the first place.

And it is curious to note, compassion to fellow humans is now bleeding hearts to the heartless. So why do you support the afghan war again?


How and replaced by what?



By shifting my share of tax money that goes to the open ended Afghanistan war to refugees.
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