But they were "chased out" by religious people for religious reasons, not by their fellow scientists.

To compare what happened then with now is a little absurd.

Yawn so its turned into a "You prove, no you" thread.
To those that deny any man made climate change, I ask simply what are your reasons for such a closed mind?
Is it simply that if accepted as fact you will have to pay more, whether its thru increased charges or a tax???
Is that what you are willing to gamble your children's future on???
A couple of extra dollars????
And how much are we talking $10 or $20 p/week, I spend more than that on coffee p/week.
More importantly why do you care, most skepitism seems to come from the right, most righties believe poverty is the poor persons fault due to inaction, I mean we have Andrei saying who gives a toss about a whole nation so why the pretense you give a stuff about a unknown pensioner in Australia, they should have worked F#%^*&Ken harder & saved RIGHT????
Are you all petrol/Coal dynasties?? Is your livelihood about to disappear under an alternate energy elephant??? Really why are you guys so against cheap renewable energy being developed & used.
I don't care, I smoked for 20 years & probably have 15 to 20 left max, none of this sh!tfight will have the slightest impact on me, but don't you guys even think "what if I'm wrong" & the impact it would have if you are?
My sides easy Climate Change crap no worries we've now got clean renewable electricity for a piittance after set up costs........You, your wrong, starvation, disease & death, hell of a gamble.

____ wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:58am:


As a ACC agnostic, I`d prefer to just say, "it`s not proven".

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 8:12am:


Yes but why should that be a concern?

Because as any student of economics such as yourself knows the more something costs the less its is used. It's why we all don't have truffle oil on our eggs of a morning.


Less carbon burned less CO2 less change, simple

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:57am:


LOl, you'd be the expert on invisible friends, mellie.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 8:30am:


I am not saying you don't have a point.

However when you look at how much Australia contributes to emissions globally - it is pissing in the wind compared to the rest of the world.

Therefore, I just don't see how making families pay more for energy that they desperately need does anything.

You'll make electricity more expensive. What's a family going to do? Sit in the dark?

You'll make air con more expensive. What do we do? Sit around and put ice bags on our head.

My bills in Melbourne were $500+ per quarter for gas in winter and well over $500 per quarter in summer for electricity.
Now add a carbon tax and inflation and you're looking at $600+ bills per quarter for an average family.
Now personally I'm alright don't worry about me, but I'm thinking here of the guy who earns 3-4 or even 5 times less than me.

How on earth are these people supposed to manage?

Their bills will be sky high and for what? China is still going to pump out emissions like its going out of fashion and we're none the better.

Please delete wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 8:57am:



Well its clear a lot of people on here aren't.

Do you realise how stretched some house budgets are right now?

And you want to ADD to them???

"Do you realise how stretched some house budgets are right now?"

Normally you call people on low income "failures", and express befuddlement that they can't earn as much as you do.

Now you pretend to worry about them.

Touching.

The truth is that once a carbon tax is in place, people will be compensated, in much the same way as when the GST was introduced.