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nichy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1812 Gender:	Re: Another 'Climate Change' failure... Reply #61 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:47am The law of gravity is the scientific fact that bodies of mass attract each other, while there are different theories of gravity that attempt to explain how bodies of mass are attracted to each other. In this way, gravity is also both a scientific fact and a scientific theory.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Another 'Climate Change' failure... Reply #62 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:48am Have you managed to grab that straw you were clutching at yet greens???
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nichy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1812 Gender:	Re: Another 'Climate Change' failure... Reply #63 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:49am gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:48am: Have you managed to grab that straw you were clutching at yet greens??? What, the THEORETICAL straw ?
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Reply #64 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:54am

nichy wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:49am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:48am:

Have you managed to grab that straw you were clutching at yet greens???

What, the THEORETICAL straw ?

No, the one that means people who doubt manmade climate change MUST also doubt evolution and Gravity....

The same one alarmists always reach for when questioned and asked for proof...

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Reply #65 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:56am

nichy wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:49am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:48am:

Have you managed to grab that straw you were clutching at yet greens???

What, the THEORETICAL straw ?

SO greens cannot prove that climate change exists, but instead is trying to change the subject onto gravity.
So therefore as gravity exists then climate change must also exist.
Is there any connection - no.

Well I can prove that climate change doesn't exist by proving that wind exists - is there any connection - no. But it will prove it to greens.

As it certainly looks like greens does have to much wind.

Can greens prove that climate change exists????

We won't hold our breath!

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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: Another 'Climate Change' failure... Reply #66 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:57am Just prove that climate change exists, rather than telling about your invisible friend as being real!
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Reply #67 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:58am

nichy wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:47am:

The law of gravity is the scientific fact that bodies of mass attract each other, while there are different theories of gravity that attempt to explain how bodies of mass are attracted to each other. In this way, gravity is also both a scientific fact and a scientific theory.

If it is law, then prove why the theory of gravity is not proven yet. Why do objects speed up the closer they get to the edge of the universe. This disproves the theory of Gravity.

Is God a proven fact ... if not, then do the climate change disbelievers support the lords prayer in parliament.

If it ain't fact, it ain't fact.

If it isn't a proven fact ... it ain't real

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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: Another 'Climate Change' failure... Reply #68 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 7:00am Just prove that climate change exists rather than telling us all about your invisible friend
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Reply #69 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 7:02am

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:56am:

nichy wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:49am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 6:48am:

Have you managed to grab that straw you were clutching at yet greens???

What, the THEORETICAL straw ?

SO greens cannot prove that climate change exists, but instead is trying to change the subject onto gravity.
So therefore as gravioty exists then climate change must also exist.
Is there any connection - no.

Well I can prove that climate change doesn't exist by proving that wind exists - is there any connection - no. But it will prove it to greens.

As it certainly looks like greens does have to much wind.

Can greens prove that climate change exists????

We won't hold our breath!

Miss Anne, you might want to add "Anthropogenic" in front of climate change, in that post......just to make it clear...

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nichy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1812 Gender:	Re: Another 'Climate Change' failure... Reply #70 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 7:05am You are so full of questions greens, but NO answers. One fact is - greens is full of bulls#!t - no doubt about that.
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Reply #71 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 7:06am

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 7:00am:

Just prove that climate change exists rather than telling us all about your invisible friend

If one theory supported by the majority of science doesn't hold any sway, then no other should either.

No Gravity & No Evolution ... and No Lord's Prayer in Our Parliament

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Reply #72 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 7:12am

____ wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 7:06am:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 7:00am:

Just prove that climate change exists rather than telling us all about your invisible friend

If one theory supported by the majority of science doesn't hold any sway, then no other should either.

No Gravity & No Evolution ... and No Lord's Prayer in Our Parliament

Nice touch using Gravity and Evolution greens, since both of those theories were initially denied by "the majority of science" when they were first advanced....

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Reply #73 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 7:37am

"since both of those theories were initially denied by "the majority of science" when they were first advanced.... "

Really? I find no evidence at the time of any dispute about gravity, beyond whether it was Newton or Hooke.

Feel free to inform me.

As to evolution, I think most of the dispute was religious, rather than scientific.

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Reply #74 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 8:00am

Please delete wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 7:37am:

"since both of those theories were initially denied by "the majority of science" when they were first advanced.... "

Really? I find no evidence at the time of any dispute about gravity, beyond whether it was Newton or Hooke.

Feel free to inform me.

As to evolution, I think most of the dispute was religious, rather than scientific.

Copernicus was afraid to publish his theories under his own name, Brahe got chased out of Denmark and had to move to Hungary, Kepler went against thousands of years of theory, Galileo was persecuted for a lot of his because of his ideas and his support for Copernicus' ideas....

Yes a lot of the resistence did come from the Church, but in those days, most of the science was carried out by monks and priests (they numbered the most of the 'literate' class after all) and even Copernicus was a priest....

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