gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2010 at 3:38pm:

Use the link
click on second world map r/h side
% of population living on under $2 p/day
Every Country you mentioned in dark Blue = LESS than 2% of population.

I'm out to the far right on this issue.

Climate change is a failure.

Or as Tony puts it, "Climate change is crap!"

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 13^th, 2010 at 7:18pm:


Haha. Nice try.

The ALP didn't think this up. The scientists did. Can you not deny that your party is divided on this issue?

Can you not hush up Malcomn Turnbull on the issue?

Cancun climate deal offers hope to Pacific nations
December 13, 2010 13:55:30

Contrary to the expectations of many, a deal has been hatched at the Cancun Climate Summit, and it's set to benefit the nations in the Pacific that are among the most at risk from the consequences of climate change.

The developed nations have pledged to contribute to a multi billion dollar green fund which is designed to help developing countries deal with the impact of global warming and promote alternative energy sources.

Australia has already agreed to contribute $80 million to the fund.


http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/pacbeat/stories/201012/s3091449.htm






MULTILATERALISM was saved on Saturday as delegates to the United Nations (UN) climate change summit at Cancun in Mexico delivered an agreement to a standing ovation, but they put off until next year in SA tough decisions on cutting greenhouse gas emissions.

Ending a marathon gathering of world climate officials in the Mexican resort on Saturday, the Cancun Agreement is a hollow shell which will need much fleshing out. SA, which hosts next year’s summit in Durban, has its work cut out for it to ensure a strong accord.

"This is not a perfect document, but the perfect should not be the enemy of the good," Grenada’s delegate Albert Binger said. His sentiment was echoed by almost all other s who admitted while they were not completely happy with the result, they were prepared to work with it.

"Perfection is not an accident. For perfection, we can work later," said Bangladesh negotiator Ainun Nishat. "This is a question of the survival of Bangladesh."

Critical issues such as ambitious emissions cuts and the future of the Kyoto Protocol have been postponed once again. The US again sidestepped any hard concessions. Most elements of last year’s Copenhagen Accord, the weak political agreement it championed, have been retained in this year’s text.

A new Green Fund for climate action has been established, as well as an initiative to save forests, and a framework for monitoring and reporting domestic actions. Although no new funds were agreed, the Copenhagen Accord promises $30bn in fast-start finance up to 2012, and to scale up finance to reach $100bn annually by 2020.

Relief among delegates was palpable. Mexican Foreign Secretary Patricia Espinosa, who brokered the compromise as the meeting’s president, was received with unprecedented enthusiasm in a late-night plenary. Praise for Mexico’s diplomacy grew hyperbolic.

Ms Espinosa was compared to a deity by India’s Environment Minister Shri Ramesh. "God has been very close to Mexico," he said.

"You have restored the confidence of the international community in multilateralism and the multilateral process," he told her, adding that he had never before witnessed two standing ovations even before the meeting had begun.

In return, Ms Espinosa graciously thanked India for its contribution.

Even Saudi Arabia — it demands compensation for lost oil revenue — received enthusiastic applause from the room when it indicated its willingness to work on the text.

http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=129288

James Bluntus wrote on Dec 13^th, 2010 at 9:27pm:

Oh hello Macca, sorry left over from yahoo where a poster always issued the same challenge.
"show me the link"
Show me the link that proves it is crap
You cant, just as I cant because there is no one website/article/peer reviewed paper that difinitively states one way or the other.
For years scientists said living in squallor, dirt floors animals allowed to live,sh!t and breed in our homes, night pots emptied straight into the street etc etc think Dickens London caused illness from little things called germs that the lay man could not see.
Thank god we didn't have the organised industry agruments back then or we'd all be still dying in droves from preventable dieases.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2010 at 9:49pm:


And for years before that, the same scientists believed that you could cure diseases by using leeches to draw out the 'bad' blood, and that the mind was centred in the heart and the brain was just a cooling device......What's you're point???

We can prove gravity.
SO how about you prove climate change!