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Reply #135 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 3:20pm

Verge wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 2:01pm:

Please delete wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 1:54pm:

Gee that's credible verge - no wonder you didn't include a link!

My apoligies, I found it on the Liberal site while looking at their banking reforms policy.

No matter who posted it, has or has not Obama dropped an ETS and is heading to a Direct Action plan?

There is nothing wrong with a direct action plan, its a good thing, interesting the Libs have it on their website though, I've never heard Abbott speak of replacing coal with natural gas nor has he encouraged electric cars, I wonder if he knows about their policy. If he were to talk about things like that he might even get a few more votes, though I expect he is more concerned about losing the vote of the climate change deniers in his party and its support base. I mean why bother doing anything, if there is nothing happening?

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Reply #136 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 3:24pm

Please delete wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 12:54pm:

The "poverty line" in Australia is $33,000 pa (correct me if I'm wrong).

In China, the average annual income is $800 or so.

Why are you and Hicks so dead set against the developing world getting developed?

Because -

1) The developing world does not contribute as much in regards to emissions. Look at the problem of China. We never had this issue in the 1980s with them.

2) It ruins our competitive advantage.

Whether you like it or not, we benefit from the developing world being able to produce things for us at a tenth of the cost.
We get the product, we own the profit and we are able to help their economy at their level too.

Now when they move beyond this stage is when it become problematic for us all.

It is 'them' v 'us' - that is what global market economics is all about.

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Please delete Gold Member Offline Please delete this smacking PROFILE Posts: 2936	Re: Another 'Climate Change' failure... Reply #137 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 3:33pm Ahhh .... that's the Hicks I know and love.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Another 'Climate Change' failure... Reply #138 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 3:46pm Please delete wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 3:13pm: Meanwhile, back in the real world .... Well yeah..I didn't say it would be successful... Sending in experts to do the work, and train locals in their skills is a workable method though..Yes?
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Another 'Climate Change' failure... Reply #140 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 3:59pm To quote my now departed old Grandfather - 'At the end of the day, we got on well with the Indians, most of the time everything was good. But now again our unit had to dish out a bit of God, King and Empire'
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nefertiti Ex Member	Re: Another 'Climate Change' failure... Reply #141 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 4:04pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 3:59pm: To quote my now departed old Grandfather - 'At the end of the day, we got on well with the Indians, most of the time everything was good. But now again our unit had to dish out a bit of God, King and Empire' What Indians was your Grandfather referring to?
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Reply #142 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 4:59pm

Please delete wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 3:50pm:

What, at the point of a gun?

Why would you need "the point of a gun"????

The people in the 3rd world countries are BEGGING for help...that's the whole point to their demands in the AGW system...They want help, why do you think the 3rd World would reject assistance to bring them up to our standard of living??

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Reply #143 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 5:33pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 4:59pm:

Please delete wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 3:50pm:

What, at the point of a gun?

Why would you need "the point of a gun"????

The people in the 3rd world countries are BEGGING for help...that's the whole point to their demands in the AGW system...They want help, why do you think the 3rd World would reject assistance to bring them up to our standard of living??

Yes, just like the boat people how they try and claim that they are genuinely seeking help yet bypass numerous countries just to settle in Australia.
Guess then the 3rd World countries would also be wanting to dictate the help that they will ONLY accept.
But they don't as they're genuinely seeking help unlike the boat people!

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Reply #144 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 5:40pm

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Yes, just like the boat people how they try and claim that they are genuinely seeking help yet bypass numerous countries just to settle in Australia

Such a stupid comment ,no surprise you made it, the Jews passed many countries to come here, as did the Vietnamese,why are they here? you see when we blow the fcck out of a country we have a certain duty to take in that countries miss placed people.

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Reply #145 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 5:43pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 5:40pm:

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Yes, just like the boat people how they try and claim that they are genuinely seeking help yet bypass numerous countries just to settle in Australia

Such a stupid comment ,no surprise you made it, the Jews passed many countries to come here, as did the Vietnamese,why are they here? you see when we blow the fcck out of a country we have a certain duty to take in that countries miss placed people.

Well you're the expert in stupidity as shown by your posts and no one is within a bulls roar of taking that title from you, pot meet kettle!

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Reply #146 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 5:44pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 4:59pm:

Please delete wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 3:50pm:

What, at the point of a gun?

Why would you need "the point of a gun"????

The people in the 3rd world countries are BEGGING for help...that's the whole point to their demands in the AGW system...They want help, why do you think the 3rd World would reject assistance to bring them up to our standard of living??

Please name one such country.

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Reply #147 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 5:45pm

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 5:43pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 5:40pm:

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Yes, just like the boat people how they try and claim that they are genuinely seeking help yet bypass numerous countries just to settle in Australia

Such a stupid comment ,no surprise you made it, the Jews passed many countries to come here, as did the Vietnamese,why are they here? you see when we blow the fcck out of a country we have a certain duty to take in that countries miss placed people.

Well you're the expert in stupidity as shown by your posts and no one is within a bulls roar of taking that title from you, pot meet kettle!

I thought you had a tanty and said you'd stop posting on the politics board mellie, another lie.

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Reply #148 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 5:46pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 5:45pm:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 5:43pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 5:40pm:

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Yes, just like the boat people how they try and claim that they are genuinely seeking help yet bypass numerous countries just to settle in Australia

Such a stupid comment ,no surprise you made it, the Jews passed many countries to come here, as did the Vietnamese,why are they here? you see when we blow the fcck out of a country we have a certain duty to take in that countries miss placed people.

Well you're the expert in stupidity as shown by your posts and no one is within a bulls roar of taking that title from you, pot meet kettle!

I thought you had a tanty and said you'd stop posting on the politics board mellie, another lie.

You don't need to display your stupidity any more, we all know that you are stupid.

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Reply #149 - Dec 14^th, 2010 at 8:30pm

Please delete wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 5:44pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 4:59pm:

Please delete wrote on Dec 14^th, 2010 at 3:50pm:

What, at the point of a gun?

Why would you need "the point of a gun"????

The people in the 3rd world countries are BEGGING for help...that's the whole point to their demands in the AGW system...They want help, why do you think the 3rd World would reject assistance to bring them up to our standard of living??

Please name one such country.

ALL of the 3rd world developing nations who want the payments from the Developed nations...

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