inbound39 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2010 at 9:54am:


WW2 washed away any spirit of the British Mandate to the point of being irrelevant by May 1945.
And the Arab League made their opinion of the 2 state solution known to all when they attacked Israel the day after Israel's formation then making the old UN charter invalid.
And they lost that war along with the next three wars after that.
The Palestinians have their 'homeland' in what is now called Jordan, pity the Jordanians don't want a bar of the Palestinian rabble though.

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 10^th, 2010 at 8:49pm:



It's odd that any group/government that DOESN'T advocate the wholesale destruction of Israel and ALL Western countries, and wants to engage in peaceful trade and diplomacy seems to be a "Zionist puppet group"...including any country that has tried and failed to destroy Israel and the West....


You're starting to sound like 'the_Light'...anyone who challenges your ideals is a 'CIA/Illuminati asset/mole'....

WW2 washed away any spirit of the British Mandate to the point of being irrelevant by May 1945.
And the Arab League made their opinion of the 2 state solution known to all when they attacked Israel the day after Israel's formation then making the old UN charter invalid.
And they lost that war along with the next three wars after that.
The Palestinians have their 'homeland' in what is now called Jordan, pity the Jordanians don't want a bar of the Palestinian rabble though.

*****Absolute rot!...read the links on the Hamas thread and then speak from an informed position.

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Haifa/al-Tantur a/Story560.html

http://www.palestineremembered.com/al-Ramla/Sarafa nd-al-%27Amar/

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Haifa/Haifa/

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine- Remembered/Story674.html

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Jerusalem/Dayr- Yasin/

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Articles/Genera l/Story1649.html

http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/805C7314520359 12852569D1005C1201

The Right of Return of the Palestinian People

(WITH SUFFICIENT USE OF THE WORD EXPULSION)

MASS EXPULSIONS...ETHNIC CLEANSING

inbound39 wrote on Dec 21^st, 2010 at 12:51pm:


'Read the links on the Hamas thread' you say.
That really says it all now doesn't it.
Case closed.

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It's real...

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MEMBERS of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah party asked Israel to attack rival Palestinian movement Hamas in 2007, diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks show.

The latest batch of cables quote the head of Israel's Shin Bet domestic security agency as telling US officials that ''demoralised'' Fatah officials in the Gaza Strip had asked for help against the growing strength of Hamas.

''They are approaching a zero-sum situation, and yet they ask us to attack Hamas,'' Shin Bet chief Yuval Diskin told US officials. ''They are desperate.''
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The disclosure will embarrass Mr Abbas and his Fatah movement, which Hamas has accused of working with the Israelis. Mr Abbas's standing among Palestinians has already been weakened by his failure to make progress in peace negotiations with Israel and his inability to secure an end to Israeli settlement expansion in the occupied West Bank.

The June 13, 2007, memo from the US embassy in Tel Aviv, citing a conversation that took place during the 2007 civil war in Gaza that ended with the Hamas takeover, cites Mr Diskin as saying Israel had ''established a very good working relationship'' with two branches of the Palestinian security service run by the Fatah authority in the West Bank.

Mr Abbas's internal security agency, he said, ''shares with [Shin Bet] almost all the intelligence that it collects''.

The Shin Bet is reviled by Palestinians for its sometimes deadly raids on militant targets and its often harsh treatment of Palestinian suspects. Although Israeli and Palestinian security forces are known to co-operate, the tight co-ordination described by Mr Diskin could further weaken Mr Abbas.

Mr Diskin is also cited opposing a US proposal to supply ammunition and weapons to Fatah, fearful that Hamas might get its hands on them instead.

The message suggests that Mr Diskin failed to anticipate Hamas wresting control of Gaza from Fatah. It paraphrased him as saying that while Hamas was dominant in the Gaza Strip, it ''is not yet strong enough there to completely destroy Fatah''.

Fatah forces were routed from Gaza in just five days of fighting.

Since then, Mr Abbas has ruled only the West Bank, leaving the Palestinians with two rival administrations.

An official with Mr Abbas's authority, speaking on condition of anonymity, played down the information, saying ''information-sharing between us and Israel is limited to field information that serves our security and the interest of our people''.

Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum said he was not surprised to hear about the co-operation.

A June 2009 diplomatic message obtained by WikiLeaks cited Israel's defence minister as asking Fatah before Israel's Operation Cast Lead offensive in Gaza in January 2009 whether it wanted to assume control of the territory once Israel defeated Hamas.

Fatah rejected the offer, according to the memo from the US embassy in Tel Aviv. An Abbas aide denied there were any pre-war consultations.

Source: The Age

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I think you need to brush up on your history a bit fd. It was not a leader against his people. It was Arian Christian Goths against Italian-backed Catholics. It was one sect of Christianity against another. As the Arians were much closer to Muslims in theology they embraced Islam much easier, and hence the reason they probably allied with the Muslims to begin with. They were the last of the true (monotheistic) Christians.

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Honestly fd, conversing with you is like conversing with a child. The Shi'a are NOT one of the 4 schools of Islamic jurisprudence.

Please get a bloody clue, and come back to the table, you don't even comprehend what it is you're trying to argue.