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Karnal
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Jan 8th, 2011 at 8:24pm
 
The Bible tells us these are God's chosen people.
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Reply #2 - Jan 8th, 2011 at 8:48pm
 
Jesus came to save us from the Jews.
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Reply #3 - Jan 8th, 2011 at 9:45pm
 
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The Bible tells us these are God's chosen people.


As does the Qur'an.
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Reply #4 - Jan 8th, 2011 at 9:50pm
 
Well, I'm glad we all have something in common then. God's chosen people.

I hope God agrees.
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Reply #5 - Jan 8th, 2011 at 10:08pm
 
Don't ALL religions claim to 'God's Chosen people'????
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #6 - Jan 8th, 2011 at 10:13pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 10:08pm:
Don't ALL religions claim to 'God's Chosen people'????


I think the Christians believe we have to chose God.
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Reply #7 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 7:53am
 
The Jews were called 'God's Chosen People' as they were chosed to spread his word, because, at the time, people were praying to various pagan gods and they were the only true believers.

According to the Bible, God promised to bless Abraham and those who came after him.

That's it and as my Jewish friends say "I wish he'd chose someone else for a change"
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Reply #8 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 8:20am
 
Here's some satire for you on this very issue

GOD NAMES NEXT "CHOSEN PEOPLE"; IT'S JEWS AGAIN"Oh poo," Say Jews

Jerusalem (SatireWire.com)
Update — Jews, whose troubled, 10,000-year term as God's "chosen people" finally expired last night, woke up this morning to find that they had once again been hand-picked by the Almighty. Synagogues across the globe declared a day of mourning.

Asked if the descendants of Abraham shouldn't be pleased about being tapped for an unprecedented second term, Jerusalem Rabbi Ben Meyerson shrugged. "Of course, you are right, we should be thrilled," he said. "We should also enjoy a good swift kick in the head, but for some reason, we don't.

God conducts blind drawing for next Chosen People
   God conducts blind drawing.
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"Now don't ask such questions until you watch the news, or read history, or at least rent 'Fiddler on the Roof'."

Much of the world's re-blessed Jewish community shared that feeling. "It's always been considered a joke with us. You know, 'Please G-d, next time choose someone else,' ha ha," said New York City resident David Bashert.

"Ha. Ha ha," Bashert added. "poo."

According to a worldwide survey of faiths, not a single group expressed an interest in being chosen, and the only application submitted before last night's filing deadline, on behalf of the Islamic people, proved to be a fake.

"Somebody filled out a form and signed our name to it, but I guarantee it wasn't us," said Imam Yusuf Al Muhammed of Medina, Saudi Arabia. "I'm not going to say who it was, but the application was filled out in Hebrew."

"Oh, don't be such a k'vatsh," responded Meyerson. "It's only 10,000 years. Trust me, after a few diaspora, you would have gotten used to the universal hatred thing."
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Due to the absence of voluntary candidates, God's Law stipulated that the Almighty had to choose a people at random to serve out the next 10-millenia term. Elias Contreau, director of the International Interfaith Working Group, said he wasn't surprised it came to a blind drawing.

"According to the Bible, God promised to bless Abraham and those who came after him," said Contreau. "Who knows, maybe that sounded good at the time, or maybe 'blessed' meant something different back then, like 'Short periods of prosperity interrupted by insufferable friggin' chaos.' Whatever, I think it's safe to say that people didn't know what they were agreeing to."

Now they do, Contreau added, which he said explains why so many religions had lately been exalting God's existence, but downplaying their own.

"We were not avoiding Him. We just told our parishioners that if Anyone asks, we're out," insisted Archbishop of Canterbury Dr. George Carey, who had called off services during February. "Besides, we weren't the only ones. I didn't see the Hindus raising their hands."

"Now look, it's like we told the ethereal vision who dropped off the application, 'Sure, we have a strong shared faith and all that, but I wouldn't exactly say we're a 'people,' not really,'" recalled Hindu leader Samuldrala Swami Maharaj of Calcutta. "Plus, you know, I told him we had a lot of other commitments. We'd like to help, honestly. Another time, maybe."

In Jerusalem, Jewish leaders said they will propose an amendment to God's Law prohibiting a people from having to serve more than two consecutive terms. "Hopefully, G-d will hear our prayer," said Meyerson. "No, wait, that's what got us into this."

Americans, meanwhile, expressed outrage at the decision, saying they had assumed they were God's chosen people. However, explained Archbishop Carey, "It only seems that way because so many people don't like you."

http://www.satirewire.com/news/march02/chosen.shtml



GH wrote on Jan 13th, 2011 at 7:53am:
The Jews were called 'God's Chosen People' as they were chosed to spread his word, because, at the time, people were praying to various pagan gods and they were the only true believers.

According to the Bible, God promised to bless Abraham and those who came after him.

That's it and as my Jewish friends say "I wish he'd chose someone else for a change"

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Reply #9 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 12:35pm
 
GH,

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as they were chosed to spread his word


God chosed them did he?  Grin

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According to the Bible, God promised to bless Abraham and those who came after him.


Right, and most of his descendants are Arabs, not Jews.
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Reply #10 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 12:57pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jan 13th, 2011 at 12:35pm:
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According to the Bible, God promised to bless Abraham and those who came after him.


Right, and most of his descendants are Arabs, not Jews.






God's curse, is upon those who take the way of the flesh, those who live by the pride of the strength of their arm.
Esau is among the Arabs.


Malachi 1:1
The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.
2  I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
3  And I hated Esau,
and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
4  Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.
5  And your eyes shall see, and ye shall say, The LORD will be magnified from the border of Israel.


Read about the pride and treachery, of Edom [the children of Esau], and the Ishmaelites and the Amalekites, Arabs all.

"They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance."
Psalms 83

These peoples, are not the friends of God.
Not because of who their father was, but because of what STILL resides in their hearts.
Because of their deeds, and because of their own choices, based on their pride, and treachery.

Their fate;
Ezekiel 35


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #11 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 1:03pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 8:48pm:
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Jesus came to save us from the Jews.





Yes, very har, har, Karnal .



Jesus was a Torah observant Jew, read the NT.
Jesus often quoted Moses law, usually to Jewish community leaders.


John 4:19
The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.
20  Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
21  Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
22  Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
23  But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.




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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #12 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 3:28pm
 
'God chosed them did he?'
You really show us all what you are, you are truly scum.  

"Right, and most of his descendants are Arabs, not Jews. [/quote]"

In your dreams pal, in your dreams

Go back to the sewer you crawled out of mate
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Reply #13 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 4:52pm
 
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God's curse, is upon those who take the way of the flesh, those who live by the pride of the strength of their arm.


Interesting, because the only linkage Jews have with Abraham, Moses, Dawud etc (pbut) is a geneological (read: fleshy) connection. Their religion is obviously nothing to do with those people, who obviously practised a religion much more like Islam in it's spirit.

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Esau is among the Arabs.


Even more interesting, for as I'm sure you're aware Esau/Edom was associated with Rome (ie. the West/Christians).

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Rabbinic and Pharasaic writings such as the Mishnah or the Talmud, the Spanish Rabbinic leaders Ramban and Ibn-Ezra, the French Rabbinic scholars Rashi (1040–1105) and Tosphoth, Babylonian Jewish scholars like Sa-adia Gaon and other Jewish exilarchs, the Lithuanian leader Rabbi Elijah of Vilna and Baal-Shem-Tov use "Edomite" to refer to Rome, the Byzantine Empire. In parallel, the Islamic world is referred to as "Ishmael".
(Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom#Biblical_Edom)

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These peoples, are not the friends of God.
Not because of who their father was, but because of what STILL resides in their hearts.
Because of their deeds, and because of their own choices, based on their pride, and treachery.


If you go back and read your Bible properly, you'll find it was Abraham & Ishmael (pbut) who made the covenant with God. Obviously those who later became Jews tried to gloss it over as being with their ancestor, and they doctored the books (which is plainly obvious) to reflect it. Your whole covenant theology is based on fabrications, like all your beliefs. Just like they continue to do today, the Jews have hoodwinked you.

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Jesus was a Torah observant Jew, read the NT.
Jesus often quoted Moses law, usually to Jewish community leaders.


So why aren't Christians also Torah observant?

I don't think you can use the term Jew, because no such religion as "Judaism" existed in that time.
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Reply #14 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 5:01pm
 
"I don't think you can use the term Jew, because no such religion as "Judaism" existed in that time."

Pardon????
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