And just to keep things nice and tidy, here is the reply on that other Thread on the same subject:

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longy I had a long exhausting exchange with nem not long ago.. on her thoughts of what IDs miss anne had used on the boards.. totally irrelevant to anything or even the topic..[which i have forgotton].. but it was quite obsessive.. but at the end of the day It didnt matter what missy or anyone else said.. nem didnt believe it anyway.no amount of discussion would make her believe she was right and everyone else wrong.. of course the usual came out in support of nem we are all from the right one the same person..lol

but just reading the last few posts makes me think you are barking up a tree mate... waste of time

Weren't one of the conditions of the Telstra sale that they would provide services to the bush? We were promised faithfully that this was a priority to the division and sale.

The Coalition made these promises - and if they had followed through with them and insisted Telstra provide a decent internet and phone service - we wouldn't be going through this costly exercise today.

THE INDEPENDENTS WOULD HAVE SIDED WITH THE COALITION - BECAUSE ALL THEY WANTED WAS FOR THE BUSH TO HAVE THE SAME ADVANTAGES AS THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY. WE WOULD HAVE ENDED UP WITH A COALITION GOVERNMENT IF THEY HAD TOLD THE TRUTH OCCASIONALLY.

Stop blaming the current government for this scheme. It wouldn't have even been created if the Coalition hadn't been ripping the country off with their mates Trujillo and Co.

Don't forget - Mum and Dad investors were ripped off by the Coalition paying up to $8 per share. What are the shares worth today - $2. Telstra shareholders won't forget the Coalition in a hurry.

codswal wrote on Nov 30^th, 2010 at 9:25am:




Codswal, it seems that some get obsessed with me because I don't play their childish games or submit or react to their harping and badgering.
If they want to badger then they should run off to the weasel family - I'm sure that they'll accept them as one of their own.
In the meantime they should go find some mushrooms!

Still no attempt from Longy to justify the false and misleading statement of this thread's title.
I wonder if that is Longy conceding that it was just a deliberate attempt to promote the sort of BS that poor Malcolm Turnbull has been assigned to try and foist upon the Australian public, to create dissent from the popular policy of developing a world class optical fibre broadband network that almost all Australians will be able to access, rather than the Liberal's plan to maintain the multi tiered system that we currently have?
At the moment people outside of the high density areas of our major Capitol Cities usually have the option of inferior, or grossly inferior broadband service, and the Liberals seem to believe that we should leave it that way, while the Coalition of Labor, Green, and Independent Conservative MPs, are supporting the plan that will deliver first class services to almost all, including those that the Liberals want to exclude, because they do not fit into their "Business Plan".

Yes, they are not shy about making these broad, unfounded claims, but they become positively meek, when challenged to provide any sort of factual analysis to backup the false assertions.
I suppose they are not really attempting to make a serious point, and they certainly do not want their false assertions seriously analysed, they just seem content to put this sort of guff out there, so as to create the appearance of real controversy, on technical issues related to the subject, where little or no controversy actually exists.

It is the same tactic that those who disbelieve the scientific consensus on climate change employ.
Ignore any real scientific opinion, and try and create the illusion of scientific dissent, where it does not exist.

The figure of 69% of Aussies that support the NBN, is across the whole population.

The percentage of people with any technical understanding of the technologies capable of delivering a National Broadband Network that would agree with the false claims made in this threads title would be approaching zero.

While people may have valid concerns about costs, and even the basic ability of any government department to deliver major infrastructure initiatives, no reasonable person questions the fact that optical fibre is the best available option, and will be a solid and reliable system that will develop a future proof network, capable of servicing the country's broadband needs for decades to come.

So we should stick to debating the way we think that can best be delivered, and leave out deliberately false claims about "competing" technology, that only seek to confuse those who are not familiar with the facts.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 1^st, 2010 at 2:28pm:




Well said sprint