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Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:41pm:


many blessings sir bobby

ye are forgiven for misrepresenting one such as I am

namaste

http://guruphiliac.lefora.com/topic/2073569/Sadhguru-and-the-Isha-Foundation#.Vy...

Randomstu, did you ever go to the isha program?  What was your impression?

I've done all the isha programs. It took me that long to figure out that isha is just another feel-good cult with dreamy eyed followers fainting over their master. If you read internet posts from the isha followers, they all sound like robotic zombies, spewing off jaggi's 'deep' one liners about finding enlightenment. Many try to convice others that they are 'better' after doing isha. If you spent enough time in isha, you'd witness a lot of fake, and perhaps real, delusional states of bliss. People go really crazy in isha. Sadhguru encourages the 'madness' as a way of reaching bliss. In fact he often brags about the number of people who go into altered states just by being in his presence and then have to be carried out of the hall.

One can easily see the parallel in the church rising evangelists that 'heal' people. The believers go into bouts of spasms and unconciousness, yet not one of them gets healed from their disease. Guess what, i haven't seen any enlightened isha followers either. Only Jaggi is 'enlightened' and he's the only one claiming it. Why does everyone believe it without question?

Look at the obvious cults....kuresh, jones, manson, erhard, etc. Look at the not so obvious yoga cults....ammachi, mahesh yogi, sri sri ravi, sai baba, osho, etc. They all have intensely charismatic, magnetic leaders that have a way with language. They all promise the ONE way to enlightenment. They all have devoted followers, quite in love with the leader. Followers never question the leader, and if they do, the person who raises a question is mocked, ignored or blamed for their own failure in the system.  New members are actively recruited with the same old member claim of 'look at me, my life is better since i accepted so-and-so as my master. Come join us and we can save the world." The yoga groups like to hide under 'charity' work and volunteerism which seems like innocent concern for the people and the earth. Meanwhile, they are raking in mounds of money, fame, political ties, property and influence.  Belive me, sadhguru's isha is no exception to these cult qualities.

Isha is no different than any other self-delusional cult. I would like to see a comparison of all these different yoga techniques that promise enlightenment. I bet they all have the same chanting and breathing methods with only a slight difference, if any. This must be why no yoga group lets their members divulge the 'secret' kriyas to non-members, often warning against the possibility of doing damage to those not initiated by the master. Absolute secrecy is required to ensure fresh meat will arrive and pay for their programs. I can honestly say, that some of the isha practices are VERY similar to some of the osho practices. And some of the isha chants and mantras are easily found being used in other cults/groups. But would an isha groupie look for this info, let alone acknowledge this truth? Heck, no!

I urge current isha groupies to see jaggi's contradicting claims and stories, ask questions and keep an open mind. When sadhguru tells you that you can not trust your mind, how then can you trust your experiences? Everything we experience goes through the filters of our mind. He says that meditators who used to see angels or other-worldly beings are filtering this through their mind and it was not a real experience. How then can you trust the isha meditation experiences? You can't have it both ways.

I urge other ex-ishas to come forth and give their stories. There seems to be a lot of hush-hush about sadhguru. Its been said that isha groupies have revised wikipedia when soemthing non-flattering about sadhguru was posted (One was about his wife Viji dying and sadhguru being questioned about the death. There was also a complaint filed against sadhguru by his wife and later his wife's father who felt she was murdered). Research it yourself but the information is strangely limited. I respectfully request an open discussion from the ones who went in and went out of isha with an open mind and open eyes.

I've written my experiences with isha on another website. I was planning on doing the same here but got sidetracked

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29^th, 2016 at 11:01pm:


many blessings sir bobby

I see you posting this quite often ..

does this comfort you ?

im interested

namaste

Bobby. wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 9:20pm:



No direct answer to my question to the Ozpolitic Guru. 

it_is_the_light wrote on May 4^th, 2016 at 7:53pm:



Sadhguru is all about consciousness.
You were the one who started it by posting his advice.

Now you are running away from defending him.

forgiven

namaste

it_is_the_light wrote on May 4^th, 2016 at 8:31pm:



I would never join a cult.

I did find some of his advice helpful.