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Re: Bob Katter Facts
Reply #45 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 2:52pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 2:48pm:

Notice the 2nd line
"It's wonderful to free trade ... but if you're doing it and no one else is doing it, it will close down your food industries and your manufacturing industries," he warned.
This is the main argument we are subsidy free where as the rest of the world is not.

I'm all for free trade when its fair.
No subsidies no tarrifs
10% sub 10% tarrif on import
etc

I personally think that 100% Free market trading is not healthy, neither is 100% Protectionism.

I think a mix of both is the best way to go.

Take for example the banana dispute that broke out between Europe and North America about 10 years ago.

Pure free trade would have seen Chiquita bananas flood into the EU and undercut all on cost.
However the traditional carribbean growers who had arrangements with the former colonial powers Spain, France and the UK would have gone to the wall without the protectionist agreements in place.

Like with socialism v capitalism - both in total terms would be bad and you need an element of both in a successful market economy.

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Re: Bob Katter Facts
Reply #46 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 2:53pm

aussiefree2ride wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 1:55pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 1:50pm:

My wife is adamant that years ago she saw Bob Katter drive through (I think it was Ayr) in a ute and yelled out the window for two girls to "Get 'em out!"

I asked if she could be mistaken.

Her reply "Have you seen Bob Katter Jnr?"

I was there that day Andrei. What he actually yelled out was, "what a drought!", but she got em out anyway. Good sport that girl!

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Reply #47 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 2:59pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 2:36pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 2:17pm:

Mr Katter told the audience he was concerned that

free trade was decimating rural Australia.

"It's wonderful to free trade ... but if you're doing it and no one else is doing it, it will close down your food industries and your manufacturing industries," he warned.

Mr Katter said Australia had become a net importer of fruit, vegetables, pork and seafood, and was on track to become a net importer of food in general. He said this was disastrous for the bush.

"Every year you own a business you know it's going to get less and less," he said.

"Every year you know your kids are going to leave because there's no jobs for them in the local town."

Two of his constituents had to pull their own teeth out because they could not find a dentist, he said.

Mr Katter spoke against the stranglehold of Coles and Woolworths on the grocery market, saying this was difficult for farmers.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/independents-sevenpoint-pathway-to-power-...

Straight from Katters mouth less than 2 hours ago.
Got that link yet Mellie or was it all lies?

Yeah but Smithy that's Katter's opinion - it's not necessarily right.

Katter and his ilk would most likely be in favour of protectionism - which has far greater damaging factors to a small country like Australia in the global economy.

If protectionism carries the day you'll have the EU, NAFTA and Asia Pac shut up shop and deal internally.

Europe needs to import nothing, the US needs to import nothing.

Australia would be right up shyte creek.

It depends though Andrei.....
Protectionism, to me, would be something like allowing shortages, rather than importing products/resources you DON'T have....

But burning 50 tonnes of wheat, just to create a 'shortage', so you can import 20 tonnes of wheat from Europe or America....seems pretty stupid..

If our local production falls short of demand, then importing the difference is a great idea.....
BUT if our local production produces a surplus, why import the same things we have a surplus of????

Trade is basically the barter system.......I have too much wheat, but I need corn...so I'll swap YOU my excess wheat for you're excess corn...

Saying I have too much wheat, so I'll buy wheat from you and flush my wheat down the dunny, just so I can be a 'team player' and suck up to you... is the actions of an idiot..isn't it

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Re: Bob Katter Facts
Reply #48 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 5:23pm

muso wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:22am:

http://trendsmap.com/topic/%23bobkatterfacts

- When Bob Katter feels like a salad, he eats a vegetarian
- Bob Katter taught Jesus how to turn water into wine and feed 5000 on a shoestring.
- Bob Katter doesn't read the paper. He tells journalists the news.
- Bob Katter is so tough the e-bola virus is innoculated against him.
- When Bob Katter threatens to kill an MP, he sharpens the edge of his hat in anticipation of the "hunt"
- Chuck Norris wears Bob Katter pyjamas

- Large hadron collider scientists have renamed the 'god' particle, the 'Bob' particle

- When The Taliban heard that Bob Katter was going to be made Minister for Defense, they surrendered

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Well, you gotta say Bob Katter is different, but I must say I have a lot more time for Tony Windsor!

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Reply #49 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 5:38pm

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 5:23pm:

muso wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:22am:

http://trendsmap.com/topic/%23bobkatterfacts

- When Bob Katter feels like a salad, he eats a vegetarian
- Bob Katter taught Jesus how to turn water into wine and feed 5000 on a shoestring.
- Bob Katter doesn't read the paper. He tells journalists the news.
- Bob Katter is so tough the e-bola virus is innoculated against him.
- When Bob Katter threatens to kill an MP, he sharpens the edge of his hat in anticipation of the "hunt"
- Chuck Norris wears Bob Katter pyjamas

- Large hadron collider scientists have renamed the 'god' particle, the 'Bob' particle

- When The Taliban heard that Bob Katter was going to be made Minister for Defense, they surrendered

Grin

Well, you gotta say Bob Katter is different, but I must say I have a lot more time for Tony Windsor!

LOL got to love Bob Katter jokes...

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Bob Katter Facts Reply #50 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 10:01am http://www.thepunch.com.au/
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Mnemonic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1530 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Bob Katter Facts Reply #51 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 2:20pm Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 2:48pm: Notice the 2nd line "It's wonderful to free trade ... but if you're doing it and no one else is doing it, it will close down your food industries and your manufacturing industries," he warned. Good on you, Bob Katter! Supporting local industry!
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Re: Bob Katter Facts
Reply #52 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 2:36pm

Mnemonic wrote on Aug 26^th, 2010 at 2:20pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 2:48pm:

Notice the 2nd line
"It's wonderful to free trade ... but if you're doing it and no one else is doing it, it will close down your food industries and your manufacturing industries," he warned.

Good on you, Bob Katter! Supporting local industry!

I'll say, he is the only politician that is!

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Bob Katter Facts Reply #53 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 3:12pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 5:38pm: LOL got to love Bob Katter jokes... If we ever have a global nuclear war, all that will be left will be cockroaches ..... and Bob Katter.
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Vanessa Senior Member Offline Ranga Rock Chick Posts: 301 Somewhere In The Real World Gender:	Re: Bob Katter Facts Reply #54 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 4:35pm I don't mind him. I don't know that much about him, but he appears to be someone who stands up for what he believes in, and tells it like it is, no matter if anyone disagrees. I admire people like that. I wonder how many episodes of Dallas he watched before he decided to go all J.R on us...
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