the practice of attempting to increase the frequency of desirable genetically based attributes through practices (either draconian or voluntary)

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i observe you useing the term draconian

i doubt you know its origins

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 29^th, 2010 at 5:14pm:


It means rule or control by government with great harshness. Eugenic practices can be exactly that.

aikmann4 wrote on Aug 29^th, 2010 at 5:12pm:


Yer, we would be sterile - but we wouldn't necessarily know until we couldn't conceive after at least a couple of years of actively trying...

Epidemiology is such that: if only infants had been vaccinated in a Western country, the general public would not start to notice for 15-20 years and the proof wouldn't emerge for close to a whole generation - not least because about 1/3 of the population aren't ever planning to breed...

Let's face it, the cancer effects of smoking and asbestos remained unproven for a couple of decades...

So, at first, the drop in teenage pregnancies would be regarded as a positive and put down to social factors - including sex education and availability of contraception...

It probably wouldn't be regarded as a broad reproductive issue that warranted investigation, until women in their mid-late 20's were not falling pregnant despite actively trying to conceive...

For obvious reasons, the effects would probably become apparent a little sooner in 3rd world countries - but the statistical analysis would still take time to flow through...

In practice, therefore, it is possible that the whole thing could be covered up for a whole generation - by which time, close to a whole generation could have been affected...

It's seriously scary to think about it - and it could definitely be done!

As to whether is it currently going on, I have no idea - but I wouldn't be surprised if there were enough nutjobs out there, who have the inclination and/or resources to interfere with humanity in this way...

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/119668

Experimental Swine Flu Vaccines Contain a Smorgasbord of Potentially Deadly Additives
Bill LindnerSeptember 18, 2009
Trials are beginning on Novartis' H1N1 vaccine and Novartis is recommending that children participating in the trial receive two doses of the experimental vaccine that reportedly contains ingredients found in spermicides, cleaners, and cosmetics as well as thimerosal and squalene (MF-59) -- raising concerns because the only safety checks for the children participating in the tests are a few blood draws and follow-up phone calls but no neurological testing, and adverse reactions to the Swine Flu vaccines being tested are being purposely omitted by researchers.

Despite the fact that the Government is giving the Pharmaceutical companies total impunity from any and all damages the populations receive as a result of their experimental cocktail, the Center for Disease Control (CDC) continues insisting that the new vaccine will be safe and effective. Experts -- there's that oft-deceptive word again -- are saying we can trust the experimental vaccine because the technology used to create it is time tested. As you'll see below, these so-called 'experts' are intentionally deceiving the public once again. The answer to the question I asked a couple of months ago -- Swine Flu outbreak or bioterrorism and intent to commit mass murder? -- is becoming increasingly clear.

As the information below reveals, these 'experts' from various government agencies are once again purposely cherry picking and ignoring information with the intention of deceiving, knowing full well that many people could die while trying to push their treachery off as the truth. The government has had a major aversion to the truth for years.

Participants of the study being conducted on children were not allowed to know the exact ingredients of the experimental vaccine on the grounds that it was a study and that the information is privileged. However, there are some clues that can be obtained from the parental consent form.

Squalene Linked to Gulf War Syndrome and ALS

Page two of the form informs you that MF-59 is an adjuvant that is used in influenza vaccines licensed for adults and/or the elderly in many countries, but not in the United States. So, if children are being used as guinea pigs in the study, why is vaccine that is licensed for adults and/or the elderly going to be used on newborns, children and pregnant women?

MF-59 (Squalene) is listed by the U.S. National Library of Medicine as being too dangerous for human use. Squalene is not licensed for use in the U.S. The anthrax vaccine used on Gulf War veterans in the early 1990's was laced with Squalene. It is known to have had disastrous consequences, which include Gulf War Syndrome and ALS. Information on the toxicity and adverse effects of Squalene are available from the National Library of Medicine.

In 2006, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny wrote an article noting the dangers of Squalene. Squalene is manufactured naturally in the liver as a precursor for cholesterol. Ingested Squalene is different from injected Squalene. When Squalene is injected, it can lead to self-destructive immune responses such as autoimmune arthritis and lupus. Squalene in MF-59 can cross react with the body's Squalene on the surface of human cells. Destruction of the body's own Squalene can lead to the diseases mentioned above and other central nervous system diseases.

Novartis has not performed testing for the carcinogenicity of MF-59 adjuvant or any of their other preventive vaccines and has no plans to.

Further down the parental consent form -- while not explicitly mentioned as ingredients -- it is noted that if your child had an allergic reaction in the past to neomycin or polymyxin, sodium ethylmercurothiosalicylate or thimerosal (mercury containing compounds often used as preservatives in vaccines), beta propriolactone or nonoxynol 9 (commonly used in cleaners, cosmetics and spermicides) you must tell the medical staff. People with egg allergies should avoid the Swine Flu vaccine.

Thimerosal is Known to Cause Harm in Children

What exactly are the vaccines comprised of? It's not revealed by those conducting the study, but the list of products producing allergic reactions is very revealing. Cleaners, cosmetics, spermicides, Squalene and Thimerosal reveals that these vaccines aren't safe at all.

Thimerosal is a neurological toxin -- that the Government and the Pharmaceutical companies are aware of but have intentionally kept covered up -- that is known to cause harm in children. It has been linked to autism because of its mercury content. The effects of nonoxynol are not yet known.

People with weakened or no immue system are susceptible to getting the flu from the vaccine. A lengthy list of some of the possible risks and side effects, more information about neurological testing and the neurological damage caused by many vaccines can be found in this article from VacTRUTH.

There are no measures in place to understand what the child's immune response would be. No neurological measurements are taken. But, there's a reason for that: as long as no neurological measurements are taken, according to Dr. Andrew Moulden, the Pharmaceutical industry can say the vaccine is safe. Some researchers are denying that a study participant's adverse reactions were caused by the Swine Flu vaccine.

http://www.infowars.com/india-halts-hpv-vaccine-trial-after-six-girls-die-u-s-does-nothing-after-67-deaths/


India halts HPV vaccine trial after six girls die; U.S. does nothing after 67 deaths
                                     
India halts HPV vaccine trial after six girls die, US does nothing in response to 67 deaths and counting
Mike Adams
Natural News
Thursday, September 2, 2010
(NaturalNews) As someone with a good deal of education in scientific thinking and the scientific method, I have put considerable effort into attempting to find any real scientific evidence backing the widespread use of influenza vaccines (flu season shots). Before learning about nutrition and holistic health, I was a computer software entrepreneur, and I have a considerable scientific background in areas such as astronomy, physics, human physiology, microbiology, genetics, anthropology and human psychology. One of my most-admired thought leaders is, in fact, the late physicist Richard Feynman.
I don’t speak from a “scientific” point of view on NaturalNews very often because it’s often a dry, boring presentation style. But I do know the difference between real science and junk science, and I find examples of junk science in both the “scientific” side of things as well as the “alternative” side of things.
For example, so-called “psychic surgery,” as least in the way it has been popularized, is nothing more than clever sleight-of-hand where the surgeon palms some chicken gizzards and then pretends to pull diseased organs out of the abdominal cavity of some patient. The demonstrations I’ve seen on film are obvious quackery.
Similarly, flu season vaccines are mainstream medicine’s version of psychic surgery: It’s all just “medical sleight of hand” based on nothing more than clever distractions and the obfuscation of scientific facts. Flu season shots, you see, simply don’t work on 99 out of 100 people (and that’s being generous to the vaccine industry, as you’ll see below).
A year ago, I offered a $10,000 reward to any person who could find scientific proof that H1N1 vaccines were safe and effective (http://www.naturalnews.com/027985_H…). No one even made a claim to collect that reward because no such evidence exists.
Conventional medicine, they say, is really “Evidence-Based Medicine” (EBM). That is, everything promoted by conventional medicine is supposed to be based on “rigorous scientific scrutiny.” It’s all supposed to be statistically validated and proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that it works as advertised. And in the case of flu vaccines, they are advertised as providing some sort of absolute protection against influenza. “Don’t miss work this flu season. Get a flu shot!” The idea, of course, is that getting a flu shot offers 100% protection from the flu. If you get a shot, they say, you won’t miss work from sickness.
This implication is wildly inaccurate. In fact, it’s just flat-out false. As you’ll see below, it’s false advertising wrapped around junk science.
You see, there was never an independent, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study proving either the safety or effectiveness of the H1N1 swine flu vaccines that were heavily pushed last year (and are in fact in this year’s flu shot cocktail). No such study has ever been done. As a result, there is no rigorous scientific basis from which to sell such vaccines in the first place.
To try to excuse this, vaccine hucksters claim that it would be “unethical” to conduct a placebo-controlled study of such vaccines because they work so well that to deny the placebo group the actual vaccine would be harmful to them. Everybody benefits from the influenza vaccine, they insist, so the mere act of conducting a scientifically-controlled test is unethical.
Do you smell some quackery at work yet? This is precisely the kind of pseudoscientific gobbledygook you might hear from some mad Russian scientist who claims to have “magic water” but you can’t test the magic water because the mere presence of measurement instruments nullifies the magical properties of the water.
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Similarly, vaccine pushers often insist it’s unethical to test whether their vaccines really work. You just have to “take it on faith” that vaccines are universally good for everybody.
Yep, I used the word “faith.” That is essentially what the so-called scientific community is invoking here with the vaccine issue: Just BELIEVE they work, everybody! Who needs scientific evidence when we’ve got FAITH in vaccines?
Forget about evidence-based medicine. Forget about any rational cost-benefit analysis. Forget about the risk-to-benefit ratio calculations that should be part of any rational decision making about vaccines. No, the vaccine industry (and its apologist bloggers) already know that vaccines are universally good for you, therefore no such rigorous scientific assessment is even required!
The Scientific Method, in other words, doesn’t really apply to the things they already believe in. Faith can override reason in the “scientific” community, if you can believe that! What’s next, are they going to claim vaccines work because some sort of “vaccine God” makes them work?
Here, take your vaccine shot. And don’t forget to pray to the Vaccine God because that’s how these things really work. Vaccine voodoo, in other words. (Hey, that would have been a great title for the vaccine song, come to think of it…)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP_kei648oI

A year ago, I offered a $10,000 reward to any person who could find scientific proof that H1N1 vaccines were safe and effective (http://www.naturalnews.com/027985_H…). No one even made a claim to collect that reward because no such evidence exists.

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go get your 10 grand gizmo,

if you can prove your distorted non factual view

the money is up for grabs

namaste ;)

It's like asking for scientific 'proof' of "How long is a piece of string"...

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oh no dear one,

do not attempt to distort reality,should be such a simple thing

for you to do now,and 10 grand for your troubles.

show the benefits of vaccines,this is,after all

the vaccine thread

namaste;)