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Reply #15 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:33pm
 
Oh look, they tried to sneak the broadband issue in, no such luck, he's not that pissed.



Cool...

Jeeze, Labor really think they're on a winner with their BIG BROADBAND for a BIG AUSTRALIA don't they.

Will they ever shut up about it?

We'd rather have a BIGGER SURPLUS.

Look honestly, with the exception of the piss head and Dick Smith, they are all a pack of fat cat stuffy bureaucrats trying to promote themselves, and their sham-wow cloths (oops, I mean partys/selves).


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Dicks right, at last we're talking about it now, they have 9 days to come up with a decent population policy.

I say we restrict immigration until we've figured out whether or not we are indeed capable of sustaining what we have.

This might be a good start.

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Re: Are you guys watching the ABC
Reply #16 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:39pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:33pm:
Equitist wrote on Aug 12th, 2010 at 9:55pm:
Oh dear, the Libs have sent along their biggest pisspot - and he's definitely off his scone tonight...




Why did they ask him BACK ?
For light hearted entertainment ?

He was a PISSED disgrace on his LAST appearance




Because blokes like him represent the Australian Public more so than your mate Bob Brown. Understand Buzz?

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Reply #17 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:39pm
 
What I found profoundly disturbing and ethically untenable was that we do not provide the funding to train our own people, be they new or natural australians, to fill the skills shortages but are more than willing to take the best trained from poor and developing countries leaving those countries, who need the skills more than we, with skill shortages. 

It's a double insult. Australia couldn't be bothered with there own people's up skilling needs or the needs of the poorest nations.
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Reply #18 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:42pm
 
mellie wrote on Aug 12th, 2010 at 9:04pm:
I'm voting for Dick Smith, I agree with him entirely.
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A vote for Dick Smith is a vote for the Greens. He is an avid supporter of their environmental policies.

If you had bothered to listen to Bob Brown you would realise that he has more brains than the lot of them put together - excluding John Elliott of course who is brainless and a died in the wool Liberal drunk.

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Jeeze, Labor really think they're on a winner with their BIG BROADBAND for a BIG AUSTRALIA don't they.

Will they ever shut up about it?

We'd rather have a BIGGER SURPLUS.


I think Labor are now doing a good job selling their Broadband surprisingly. I wasn't too keen on it - but it's starting to make sense.

Abbott hasn't a clue as to how the coalition is going to achieve a surplus unless it means higher taxes or cuts to essential services. We won't have a surplus for years from either government.

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Reply #19 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:45pm
 
Australia's population for its city to regional structure is too high already.
There are no incentives for people to move out of the cities, so increasing the population, without a massive change to planning to get people to other areas, is only going to make life increasingly unbearable in more Australian cities, as it is in Sydney now. If they can't plan, they shouldn't be taking in more people. Australia has enough people in that event.
It was absolutely great living in Australia when the population was a lot less than it is now, there was a real sense of community out in the real world, not just the mirage of one which is presented on the media, there was space, much less crime, full employment, the list goes on...it was brilliant. Now, you have to feel sympathy for young people being born into this mess now, and for people coming from other countries thinking that this is paradise.
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Reply #20 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:47pm
 

Sappho wrote on Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:39pm:
What I found profoundly disturbing and ethically untenable was that we do not provide the funding to train our own people, be they new or natural australians, to fill the skills shortages but are more than willing to take the best trained from poor and developing countries leaving those countries, who need the skills more than we, with skill shortages.  

It's a double insult. Australia couldn't be bothered with there own people's up skilling needs or the needs of the poorest nations.


Agreed - and throughout the extended boom, that the Howardian Libs presided over, many of today's unemployed and under-employed Aussies could have been funded through education and training to train them up to fill the purportedly unfilled skilled jobs...

Instead, they were shuffled through costly, pointless and counter-productive Welfare to Slavery and Work for the Dole programs...
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Reply #21 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:49pm
 
Equitist wrote on Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:47pm:
Sappho wrote on Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:39pm:
What I found profoundly disturbing and ethically untenable was that we do not provide the funding to train our own people, be they new or natural australians, to fill the skills shortages but are more than willing to take the best trained from poor and developing countries leaving those countries, who need the skills more than we, with skill shortages.  

It's a double insult. Australia couldn't be bothered with there own people's up skilling needs or the needs of the poorest nations.


Agreed - and throughout the extended boom, that the Howardian Libs presided over, many of today's unemployed and under-employed Aussies could have been funded through education and training to train them up to fill the purportedly unfilled skilled jobs...

Instead, they were shuffled through costly, pointless and counter-productive Welfare to Slavery and Work for the Dole programs...


Yep. I agree.
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Reply #22 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:50pm
 
not quite, sappho, but partially correct. The Australian education system has de-emphasised numeracy and science skills over the decades for a variety of reasons, with the result that there is now a huge shortfall in school students graduating with the subjects or results needed to enter the very professions where there are skills shortages.
If you do not have basic high school mathematics, you cannot enter any of the science or engineering or medical professions. Yet, here we have a school system which encourages students to drop mathematics altogether and concentrate on humanities and arts subjects. So, the country will have plenty of English teachers and librarians and clerks, but nowhere near enough engineers, doctors, pharmacists, and general science-based professionals.
Asking yourself *why* numeracy is not strongly emphasised in the Australian school system, might be a more productive consideration.

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Reply #23 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:52pm
 
Could it be that we need a BIG BROADBAND to sustain a BIG AUSTRALIA a Gillard government have planned as our information highways begin to congest even more than they have already?

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Reply #24 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:53pm
 
mantra wrote on Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:42pm:
A vote for Dick Smith is a vote for the Greens. He is an avid supporter of their environmental policies.


And a vote for the Greens is a vote for the ALP which has announced a nuclear waste dump in the NT, approved a new uranium mine and doubled mining exports to China.

Good old Bob hey?

That what he stands for these days?
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Reply #25 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:58pm
 
As usual we have the resident communist equitist weighing in to blame everything on those nasty "rich" "conservatives". The school education system in Australia has been highly politicised with left wing labor influences and staff. These influences traditionally do not have a skill or background in science and numeracy, that movement, and the people in it come from a rhetorical, ideological, language-based milieu, and this flows through into the school system which is heavily leftist/Marxist leaning. It is why you are more likely to find a "Labor Lawyer" like the extreme leftist Gillard, rather than a "Labor Engineer", the latter which is almost a contradiction in terms. Labor people think that engineers and people who are good at maths must be quasi-criminal types grounded in that "evil capitalist world".
You see what the country is up against?  You end up having to try recruiting people from other countries because the problems are so entrenched here. (Other countries still require their school students to study maths and science, thank goodness.)
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Reply #26 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 11:00pm
 
Mantra, whilst Dick Smith agrees with some of Greens more lucid policies on environmental issues, I think you will find he's pro- the party who is prepared to deliver a responsible (and meaningful)  population policy, be it Liberal or Labor...the greens just aren't going to be key policy makers because they are flat out sustaining their own party as they pick-pocket starving uni-students and demand compulsory student union fees and sell off their preferences to the highest bidder.

Greens have some rather disturbing policies  Mantra wouldn't you agree?



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Reply #27 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 11:08pm
 

shampain socialist wrote on Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:45pm:
Australia's population for its city to regional structure is too high already.
There are no incentives for people to move out of the cities, so increasing the population, without a massive change to planning to get people to other areas, is only going to make life increasingly unbearable in more Australian cities, as it is in Sydney now. If they can't plan, they shouldn't be taking in more people. Australia has enough people in that event.
It was absolutely great living in Australia when the population was a lot less than it is now, there was a real sense of community out in the real world, not just the mirage of one which is presented on the media, there was space, much less crime, full employment, the list goes on...it was brilliant. Now, you have to feel sympathy for young people being born into this mess now, and for people coming from other countries thinking that this is paradise.


Methinks that you are now suffering from the shattering of your previous state of ignorant bliss...

For starters, crime rates have been totally misrepresented in recent years - with most categories falling...

As for the loss of the sense of community, perhaps you should consider the impact of the shift in propaganda and marketing, from predominantly social issues to monetary and economic matters - all of which is designed to make us feel inadequate and insecure so that we will wantonly consume in pursuit of happiness...

Oh, and this could have something to do wth the facts that mothers are denigrated if they stay home to raise their own kids and the majority of kids are no longer raised by large extended families...

What kinds of kids are we currently churning out - now that they and are increasingly being farmed off into unnatural production-line child handling prisons from infancy...!?
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Reply #28 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 11:19pm
 

shampain socialist wrote on Aug 12th, 2010 at 10:58pm:
As usual we have the resident communist equitist weighing in to blame everything on those nasty "rich" "conservatives". The school education system in Australia has been highly politicised with left wing labor influences and staff. These influences traditionally do not have a skill or background in science and numeracy, that movement, and the people in it come from a rhetorical, ideological, language-based milieu, and this flows through into the school system which is heavily leftist/Marxist leaning. It is why you are more likely to find a "Labor Lawyer" like the extreme leftist Gillard, rather than a "Labor Engineer", the latter which is almost a contradiction in terms. Labor people think that engineers and people who are good at maths must be quasi-criminal types grounded in that "evil capitalist world".
You see what the country is up against?  You end up having to try recruiting people from other countries because the problems are so entrenched here. (Other countries still require their school students to study maths and science, thank goodness.)


LOL...trust a linear Conservative mind to lack the capacity to appreciate the respective influences of nature and nurture...

Someone who has a natural strength will tend to gravitate towards that skill and avoid those things that they are not good at...

A individual person's inherent strengths and weaknesses in IQ (and EQ) are actually fairly consistent throughout their development - and the tendency for one to become, say, an Engineer or a Writer is typically predetermined by natural aptitudes and weaknesses...

It is very rare that someone, who lacks basic mathematic abilities at the age of about 10, will ever be able to achieve the success in maths as someone who is ahead in maths at the same age - regardless of any intensive tutoring maths...

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Reply #29 - Aug 12th, 2010 at 11:21pm
 
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For starters, crime rates have been totally misrepresented in recent years - with most categories falling...


Misrepresented you're not wrong, like Rudd closing the gap figures, of which were very telling, and contrary to what his government had promised, not unlike their promised education revolution.

Labor restricted funding to ABS  www.abs.gov.au/ of which has lead to some rather interesting lack-of statistics.

Our crime figures have soared, though due to ABS cut-backs, we wont know how much until Liberal get in.

Don't kid yourself, our prisons are overfull.

Check this out... if you have the time or bother...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/09/2978079.htm?section=justin
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http://www.cla.asn.au/0805/index.php/articles/2009/indigenous-prison-rate-scars-...
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