mozzaok wrote on Aug 3
rd, 2010 at 1:22pm:
I do not think much of those Liberal leaders you mentioned Skippy.
Menzies lied to the Parliament to get us into Vietnam, as well as presiding over our previous big resource boom, and like Howard, totally ignored building infrastructure.
Holt was not terrible, but did nothing worthwhile in his time, Gorton was OK, and Fraser was shocking.
He has so much guilt over his mean spirited treatment of the less fortunate society whilst in power that he has been over compensating ever since, and has become an embarrassment to his former party because of that fact.
Longy brought up Labor's record, and the thing the Lib supporters either through ignorance, or dis-ingenuousness, always harp on about is their economic record.
Whitlam got dumped over the loans affair, when Fraser blocked supply.
The loans were to build twin pipelines from the north west cape, across the top of Australia, and down the whole Eastern seaboard.
They would have supplied clean, cheap Natural gas, and clean abundant water.
If Labor had not have been dumped, we would as a country be in a far better environmental, and economic state, than we are now.
It was a brilliant and bold, Nation Building idea, something that no Liberal government has ever offered.
The potential for clean cheap power to fuel industry was about turning Australia from a quarry, into an industrial economy, but the Libs today are just as wedded to the idea of Australia as good for nothing but a quarry as they were all those years ago.
Old quarries become tips, and with Liberal leadership that is what they will make Australia.
The simple fact about the economic management issue is that we are part of the world economy, and the only really successful action to isolate ourselves from the effects of global economic turmoils was the recent action of this government.
Previous interest rate moves, and unemployment and inflation issues were all reflections of what was happening in the wider world, and unless the Libs claim that changing parties in Australia sparks world financial crises, then the issues of the past can not be blamed upon Labor, no more than the Libs can take credit for the boom in China which sparked the resource boom.
Oh, that is right, they do take credit for that.
Well that is dishonest isn't it?
Do you think they may be being dishonest about the other economic issues as well?
That is an incredibly simplistic view of the Whitlam years. His record was one of chronic unrelenting inompetence. the loans affair was just one of them. and why hasnt the 16 years of labor govt done it since? could it be there were more issues involved than just 'a good idea'?
The simple fact about the economic management issue is that we are part of the world economy.So let me get this right... our economic circumstances are dictated by oversease? and this is only different under labor - like when our economy stood tall as others fell over? we will always be affected by overseas conditions. That is a given. but by how much is a matter that is mostly under our control. At least be consistent.
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