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Re: Liberal Democratic Party
Reply #30 - Aug 1st, 2010 at 9:40pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 1st, 2010 at 8:53pm:
why is it that ALL the nutjob parties have guns as one of their policies? it is almost the litmus test for being a nutjob group!


Yup, paranoid proprietor-cum-predator types are particularly creepy!
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Reply #31 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 5:33am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 1st, 2010 at 6:10pm:
Equitist wrote on Aug 1st, 2010 at 6:08pm:
Onya Longy!

'Tis good that we have a common political 'enemy' (for want of a better descriptor) for a change...

Roll Eyes



I oppose your political ideology for the same reasons. you are extreme left, LDP are extreme right. the practical differences are few and the result is identical - disaster and a removal of human rights.



What human rights would these be longy, Im pretty sure the Australian government lib & lab are against codified human rights and prefer a system of obligations and priveledges. To make sure they will always have control over the people of Australia and not like they have in 'proper' democracies


It's all part of labor, liberal and the green implementing and enforcing a nanny state on all Australians, facisim by stealth as it were.


Im for any party that is against big government and for basic human rights for all Australians and that is not liberal, labor or even the greens.

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Reply #32 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 5:43am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 1st, 2010 at 8:30pm:
||You can already have them for sport, hunting and collecting.  Self defence opens up a whole new door that leads to irresponisble gun ownership that I just cannot support
I'm not saying we're necessarily promoting this, but would you still be against including self defence as a reason to seek a gun license if it came with a mandatory gun safety course for people seeking a gun license for self defence?||

SELF DEFENCE is the worst possible reason because it would not necessarily require anyone to say they have a defined threat already! It is not like nations having a self-defence force; it would only lead to vastly more violence. USA is a prime example of a gun-loving culture and one we do NOT want to emulate.



Why does the anti-gun nuts only make reference to the USA and never to Switzerland or even Canada?

Both of those countries have a much higher gun ownership than the US but but we (Australia) are never compared to them only the US.

Personally I think we as a people are nothing like the US as far as gun ownership and usage but more like Canada, but then I don't need to make an extremist point to support my argument.



BTW I think Bob has done pretty well dealing with your and nemisis's churlish reductio arguments. Give me a party the leaves me the bugger alone and Im gonna listen to what they have to say.


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Reply #33 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 5:48am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 5:43am:
Why does the anti-gun nuts only make reference to the USA and never to Switzerland or even Canada?

Both of those countries have a much higher gun ownership than the US but but we (Australia) are never compared to them only the US.





Do you have a source for your claim?

Ooops silly question, of course you dont.  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #34 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 5:54am
 
lil.brat26 wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 5:48am:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 5:43am:
Why does the anti-gun nuts only make reference to the USA and never to Switzerland or even Canada?

Both of those countries have a much higher gun ownership than the US but but we (Australia) are never compared to them only the US.





Do you have a source for your claim?

Ooops silly question, of course you dont.  Grin Grin Grin



Well it is 05:40 and I have provided sources before on yahoo, not that anyone bothered to read them.

But if you really want them and they would make a difference to your opinion, Im more than happy to expend a few hours to find them again.

If not, stay with your twee responses to my posts, it'll make you feel good about yourself and your opinions  Grin


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Reply #35 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 5:54am
 
Here you go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gun_ownership
http://www.allcountries.org/gun_ownership_rates.html

Ooops the USA have more guns than Switzerland and Canada combined


Which is what anyone would expect! Grin Grin Grin

And didn't take long at all to find  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #36 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 6:14am
 
lil.brat26 wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 5:54am:
Here you go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gun_ownership
http://www.allcountries.org/gun_ownership_rates.html

Ooops the USA have more guns than Switzerland and Canada combined


Which is what anyone would expect! Grin Grin Grin

And didn't take long at all to find  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



Wow, you found that a country with 300 milion people has more guns than a country with 34 million (canada) and a country with 7.7 million people (switzertalnd), not quite the point of my argument, but thanks for your effort.  Grin

Please keep up the good work  Grin

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Reply #37 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 6:20am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 6:14am:
lil.brat26 wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 5:54am:
Here you go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gun_ownership
http://www.allcountries.org/gun_ownership_rates.html

Ooops the USA have more guns than Switzerland and Canada combined


Which is what anyone would expect! Grin Grin Grin

And didn't take long at all to find  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



Wow, you found that a country with 300 milion people has more guns than a country with 34 million (canada) and a country with 7.7 million people (switzertalnd), not quite the point of my argument, but thanks for your effort.  Grin

Please keep up the good work  Grin





Yeah thanks as afterall it disproved Grin Grin your (oops sorry about laughing)
claim  Grin Grin
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 5:43am:
Why does the anti-gun nuts only make reference to the USA and never to Switzerland or even Canada?

Both of those countries have a much higher gun ownership than the US but but we (Australia) are never compared to them only the US.





Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


But we all knew that the USA had more guns now didnt we (well all of us bar one  Grin) so cant explain why anyone would make the suggestion for it to be otherwise.
Even as  a % the USA clearly win - but we all knew that too, well now someone else does!

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #38 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 7:27am
 


You are obviously the smartest person in the room, due to the fact that you knew that the US had more people than canada and switzerland put together, and you believe that I did not.

You have discounted rates of ownership and population distributions because you would have to concede your point of absolute numbers and focus on my question on why is Australian gun ownership only related to the US and not to other high rate gun owning nations.

Why is it that we were nothing like the US 200+ years prior to '97 but if we were to relax our gun laws even by the smallest degree we would immediately turn into the US?

But please do stick to that single misinterpreted point, because it does make you look very very intellegent.

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Reply #39 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 7:38am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 7:27am:
You are obviously the smartest person in the room, due to the fact that you knew that the US had more people than canada and switzerland put together, and you believe that I did not.

Yes, you didnt realise that but that didnt stop you from your ludicrous post  Grin Grin Grin



You have discounted rates of ownership and population distributions because you would have to concede your point of absolute numbers and focus on my question on why is Australian gun ownership only related to the US and not to other high rate gun owning nations.


HAAA HAA HA HA HA -  Grin Grin Grin do you read the stupidity of your comments first or get a parent or guardian to check what you are posting? You don't? Well you should.

Oh btw I proved to you that the USA have more guns per capita (gee I love to shoot down the big moth clowns - so easy)  Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin







But please do stick to that single misinterpreted point, because it does make you look very very intellegent.


Hey lot more intelligent than you with your ludicrous comments, but you already knew that didnt you
Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Grin Grin



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Reply #40 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 7:52am
 


So two questions posed, neither answered, so thanks for that.

But you did make an effort to present an infantile ad hominem reply / attack based on semantics, so once again, well done.  Maximum effect, minimum effort, the sign of a true intellect.

Maybe longy or nemisis may that the time to answer the questions, or maybe they will not, but I doubt they will present an infantile set of posts as yourself.

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Reply #41 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 7:56am
 


BTW I could make a slight change to the statement " Both of those countries have a much higher gun ownership than the US but but we (Australia) are never compared to them only the US." to Both of those countries have a much higher gun ownership than us but but we (Australia) are never compared to them only the US, if it would help you focus on the question.

Ill even concede your absolute and vast intellect if it would help you focus.  Grin



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Reply #42 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 7:57am
 
Yes I realise that you have to try and save face after your stupid post.
Perhaps a simple apology and acknowledgement that you stuffed up would have saved you, but no you chose to dig yourself further into the quagmire.
Guess you adopted the Homer Simpson (The Vigilante)when he was stuck in a hole and was asked how will we get out, "we'll dig our way out"!
And you're not satisfied with that so you go further with Chief Wiggums comment "dig up stupid"

Otto: Um, how are we going to get out of here?
Homer: We'll dig our way out!
Wiggum: No, dig _up_, stupid.



But keep trying Wiggy, it really is funny.....pathetic, but funny
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Reply #43 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 8:02am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 7:56am:
Ill even concede your absolute and vast intellect if it would help you focus.  Grin






Don't forget to 'dig up'

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Reply #44 - Aug 2nd, 2010 at 8:13am
 


So that is a no, then?


Imagine how much better this would have been if you  put in as much effort to answer the questions posed, as you did in hitting the emoticon button.

But hey, we all have our own special skills in life, yours is to focus on on semantics or mis-statements and pressing the emoticon button 20 or 30 times for each post you make, just to make sure your intent is known.

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