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Re: NEWSPOLL: Labor Romps In
Reply #30 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 9:48am
 
____ wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 9:04am:
two 52 / 48 TPP Polls out today

Galaxy Primary :
ALP  steady on 38% ... 5 points down on the last election
Coalition down 3 to 41% ... 1.2 points down on last election
Greens up 3 points to 15% ... 7.2 points higher than last election

Newspoll
ALP 40%
Coalition 42%
Greens 12%
http://resources.news.com.au/files/2010/07/26/1225896/809052-aus-news-file-newspoll-260710.pdf


Greens are on target for Senate control ... and have a chance of gaining some control in the H of Reps.



'Gaining some control' in the lower house requires you to win  some seats - something you havent yet even come close to. perhaps stick to the senate where the voting system permits losers to win seats instead.
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Re: NEWSPOLL: Labor Romps In
Reply #31 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 10:55am
 


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.........The coalition has cut back Labor’s 10-point lead to be within range of winning the August 21 poll, according to the latest Newspoll.

While Labor still leads the coalition 52 per cent to 48 per cent, on a two-party preferred basis, support for the government has slipped three points since the start of the campaign.

Satisfaction with Prime Minister Julia Gillard also slipped - from 48 per cent to 41 per cent - while Mr Abbott’s satisfaction rating is up four points to 40 per cent............



http://www.theage.com.au/federal-election/labor-still-in-front-but-gillard-slips...

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Re: NEWSPOLL: Labor Romps In
Reply #32 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 11:21am
 
I think Tony Abbotts performance is being wilfully underrated/distorted by our MSM, (Particularly Murdoch press) of which I believe are banking on dittoism to boost Gillards popularity and prolong her honeymoon effect.

I watched the Lie-detector debate last night on Channel 7, and whilst I think both were rather unremarkable on the whole,  I firmly believe Abbott performed much better than Gillard, this and think the results were interpreted in a manner which might be considered rather biased also.

Who interpreted the results?

A woman, and within minutes of the debate having concluded.

Smiley...Good thing is, I think quite a few of us saw through this, and don't believe for a minute Gillard performed as well and or is as popular as the media and those who interpreted the worm suggest.

Did you note the three journalists who were appointed to ask both Gillard and Abbott questions?

One from the ABC, the other two from Murdoch press.

pmsl

Honestly, they must think we were all born yesterday!

Sadly, I think too many probably were.

Roll Eyes...Gillard displayed a certain smugness last night, this and avoided the hard questions, and people saw straight through this.

This is why she has declined an invitation to participate in anymore lie-detector tests, whereas Tony Abbott welcomes at least another two.

Gillard didn't mind appearing as a contestant earlier this year on a kid show  "It's academic" however.

Gillard knows she was shot down and lost the debate last night, irrespective of what's being reported in our media.

Bottom line, Gillard isn't performing as well as our news-polls/Murdoch press would have Australians believe.

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Re: NEWSPOLL: Labor Romps In
Reply #33 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 11:32am
 

mellie wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 11:21am:
I think Tony Abbotts performance is being wilfully underrated/distorted by our MSM, (Particularly Murdoch press) of which I believe are banking on dittoism to boost Gillards popularity and prolong her honeymoon effect.

I watched the Lie-detector debate last night on Channel 7, and whilst I think both were rather unremarkable on the whole,  I firmly believe Abbott performed much better than Gillard, this and think the results were interpreted in a manner which might be considered rather biased also.

Who interpreted the results?

A woman, and within minutes of the debate having concluded.

Smiley...Good thing is, I think quite a few of us saw through this, and don't believe for a minute Gillard performed as well and or is as popular as the media and those who interpreted the worm suggest.

Did you note the three journalists who were appointed to ask both Gillard and Abbott questions?

One from the ABC, the other two from Murdoch press.

pmsl

Honestly, they must think we were all born yesterday!

Sadly, I think too many probably were.

Roll Eyes...Gillard displayed a certain smugness last night, this and avoided the hard questions, and people saw straight through this.

This is why she has declined an invitation to participate in anymore lie-detector tests, whereas Tony Abbott welcomes at least another two.

Gillard didn't mind appearing as a contestant earlier this year on a kid show  "It's academic" however.

Gillard knows she was shot down and lost the debate last night, irrespective of what's being reported in our media.

Bottom line, Gillard isn't performing as well as our news-polls/Murdoch press would have Australians believe.

Cool



Our respective preconceptions and biases notwithstanding....

Ironically, more even-looking polls are precisely what the Labs need now - and exactly what the Libs don't need...

The Labs want more even pre-polling, lest there may be a last minute protest vote if they look like romping it in...

The Libs want more polarised results - cos they need the electorate to be afraid that the Labs will be returned with an increased majority...

As an electorate, the best thing is close polling - so that we are forced to think hard about the pros and cons of each party steering the country over the next 3 globally-challenging years, and beyond...
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Re: NEWSPOLL: Labor Romps In
Reply #34 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 11:40am
 

do you leftys have a course on "rambling poo till everyone gives up", or is it genetic ?
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Re: NEWSPOLL: Labor Romps In
Reply #35 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 11:47am
 

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 11:40am:
do you leftys have a course on "rambling poo till everyone gives up", or is it genetic ?


LOL...that coming from someone, who supports someone, who refers to grave global challenges as 'crap' and has made a habit out of cynically undermining positive policies by parrotting 'a great big piss on everything'...
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Re: NEWSPOLL: Labor Romps In
Reply #36 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 11:50am
 

just answer the question please,  gillEquitist
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Re: NEWSPOLL: Labor Romps In
Reply #37 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 11:57am
 

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 11:50am:
just answer the question please,  gillEquitist


LOL, SC...I've changed my ID just for you Kiss



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Re: NEWSPOLL: Labor Romps In
Reply #38 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 12:00pm
 

PPS Make a rhetorical statement, get a rhetorical answer.
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Re: NEWSPOLL: Labor Romps In
Reply #39 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 12:04pm
 
Crikey Sprint, I think your lycras must have twisted round your goolies and deprived them of oxygen too long, if you really believe your comment became a question because you put a question mark at the end of it.

Abbott could go on telly biting the heads off cute puppies, and you would still be saying he is awesome, so do not pretend your prejudice is more intellectually supportable than those of similarly prejudiced people from the other side of politics.

Barring any major governmental scandal between now and polling day, Labor will win, and pretty convincingly too, so suck it up for a few more years of whining and let's hope that in the post election Liberal bloodbath, they can find a leader better than Abbott, who can drag them back from extreme right wing idiocy.

"The boats, the boats, the boats", he is like a broken record trying to play on people's fears, which is typical of ultra nationalist loons, even though his minders have kept him very controlled in public, all who follow politics know he is an extremist at heart.
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Re: NEWSPOLL: Labor Romps In
Reply #40 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 12:27pm
 

depends if they were leftard puppies or not .

the boats, the debt and an inactive govt
$100 M a day your heroes put us further into debt
only the mindless morons should be liable for it

what's the lefts answers, tax the air, tax the successful business, make a bigger govt.
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Re: NEWSPOLL: Labor Romps In
Reply #41 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 12:47pm
 
Rather than focus on you leftys, or you rightys, we should be working on an all inclusive "US"..to get our machine right, be it left or right.

Smiley It's our country, lets all shape it.
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Re: NEWSPOLL: Labor Romps In
Reply #42 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 12:55pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 12:27pm:
depends if they were leftard puppies or not .

the boats, the debt and an inactive govt
$100 M a day your heroes put us further into debt
only the mindless morons should be liable for it

what's the lefts answers, tax the air, tax the successful business, make a bigger govt.


The funny thing is you actually think Labor are leftards.
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Re: NEWSPOLL: Labor Romps In
Reply #43 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 12:58pm
 
We had a birthday party for our two year old daughter yesterday with around 30 friends and family from all different walks of life from doctors to council workers.

After watching the debate and from the response from our group neither party got the thumbs up.

What I can tell you is the majority won't be voting for Julia Gillard and some say they won't vote for either party. The most positive negative if you like was directed towards Julia Gillard.

I don't bet but I can only go by what I hear and how could anyone trust these poll results there all over the shop.

Both my husband and I agree Julia Gillard is in a lot of trouble if our circle of friends and their circle of are saying they don't like her.

Anyway hope that helps.
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Re: NEWSPOLL: Labor Romps In
Reply #44 - Jul 26th, 2010 at 1:00pm
 
Big Donger wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 12:55pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 26th, 2010 at 12:27pm:
depends if they were leftard puppies or not .

the boats, the debt and an inactive govt
$100 M a day your heroes put us further into debt
only the mindless morons should be liable for it

what's the lefts answers, tax the air, tax the successful business, make a bigger govt.


The funny thing is you actually think Labor are leftards.

Great point Karnal, you're right, Labor now days is to the right of the likes of Menzies, Holt Gorton and Fraser, Howard took the Libs so far to the right and Labor followed.
The choice we have is an extreme far right wing neo con party, the Liberals, or a right wing party, Labor, if you really want a left leaning party vote GREENS or Social Aliance.
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