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Should East Timor have considered helping us?
Jul 14^th, 2010 at 11:39am

I feel ashamed and embarrassed that Australia and the Australian people have became an international joke. We have a PM that goes cap in hand to East Timor asking for assistance in processing refugees only to be rejected. Australia sent military personnel to ET to help them when their country was on the brink of civil war; not to mention the $970 million of aid the Australia tax payers have provided them over the past decade.

If they don’t want to help us that’s fine, but lets bring the Australian troops home, and no more free tax payer aid.

This is the thanks the Australian people get for helping a crappy little Asian country from imploding. Maybe this should be a valuable lesson learnt about Australia offering help and assistance to similar countries who have no intentions of reciprocating our physical and financial help.

Could it also be that East Timor simply don’t want Muslims in their country disrupting their culture, considering what’s happened to countries in Europe and in Australia. After all, East Timor has been a predominantly Roman Catholic Country for the past 3 decades.

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Should East Timor have considered helping us? Reply #1 - Jul 14^th, 2010 at 11:45am Quote: I feel ashamed and embarrassed that Australia and the Australian people have became an international joke. Really, can you supply your evidence that Australia is seen as an international joke? or are you just making it up? and stating YOUR OPINION rather than fact?
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Reply #2 - Jul 14^th, 2010 at 11:48am

And we're off...

Yairs... A brave lot we are ... Off to fight wars with uber-mighty mega-nations... And now we get to kick around a micro-nation... Let's see if we end up proving we can't wait to stick the boot in for their not helping us with our hysterical obsession - Prison Islands and Boat people.

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Reply #3 - Jul 14^th, 2010 at 11:53am

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And now we get to kick around a micro-nation... Let's see if we end up proving we can't wait to stick the boot in for their not helping us with our hysterical obsession

So true, the xenophobic hysterical obsession with boat people that the Libs and now Labor are showing makes me ashamed to be an Aussie.
When are these tards going to get it through their tiny little brains that being a refugee is not illegal, and that over 97% of illegals fly in on a plane. But the truth doesn't suit these xenophobic tards.

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Reply #4 - Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:04pm

Well really they should be more grateful to the Gods of Natural Resourses and Money. Otherwise Australia would have continued to sit on the sidelines (ok it's not really the sidelines when you supply economic and military support to a murderous regime) while Indonesians killed more and more East Timorese.

You have to understand that they are actually grateful but they probably prefer not to be rogered and abused again. Fancy that.

Now since we are such hero's (no disrespect for out Aussie soldiers) why don't we grow a pair and send the SAS to arm and train West Papuan in their struggle with Genocidal Indonesia....LONG LIVE THE OPM.

Where's our Charlie Wilson???? Oh where oh where is our Charlie Wilson?

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Reply #5 - Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:11pm

Could somebody explain to me why we don't just process them on one of our own islands? We have a lot.

Might be a silly question, but frankly this issue is so inconsequential. Democratic governments do an excellent job of distracting the public with trifling, unimportant matters while serious issues are going on directly under our noses.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41567 Gender:	Re: Should East Timor have considered helping us? Reply #6 - Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:13pm imp, or immediateky put them on a plane back to where they came from.
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aikmann4 Gold Member Offline Posts: 2093 canberra	Re: Should East Timor have considered helping us? Reply #7 - Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:15pm Or that. Doesn't matter that much to me as long as they're going home at some point. Get out of this treaty too.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Should East Timor have considered helping us? Reply #8 - Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:44pm aikmann4 wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:11pm: Democratic governments do an excellent job of distracting the public with trifling, unimportant matters while serious issues are going on directly under our noses. Refugees arriving by boat is a national neurotic obsession.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Should East Timor have considered helping us? Reply #9 - Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:45pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:13pm: imp, or immediateky put them on a plane back to where they came from. Simplistic sh!t typical of immigrants who for whatever reason need to appear more Aussie than Aussies.
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Reply #10 - Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:48pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:44pm:

aikmann4 wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:11pm:

Democratic governments do an excellent job of distracting the public with trifling, unimportant matters while serious issues are going on directly under our noses.

Refugees arriving by boat is a national neurotic obsession.

Because our governments and their media compatriots obsess over it. It's pretty easy to get the mob to think what you want them to think. Wouldn't be hard to get Australians to start caring about the ones that arrive by plane either. Aussies aren't aware of what's going on at all.

Politicians get to appear "tough on immigration" thus appealing to people who don't really like immigration by taking on boat people. Meanwhile, legal immigration continues unfettered, as well as the intake of all the other refugees. Macca and Joe down at the BP garage outside of Newcastle think that their vote is going to satisfy their wants. Mainstream politics is mainly about an argument over a multitude of trifling matters that serve as a smokescreen with a mostly multiparty, corporate oriented consensus going on behind it.

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Re: Should East Timor have considered helping us?
Reply #11 - Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:59pm

aikmann4 wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:48pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:44pm:

aikmann4 wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:11pm:

Democratic governments do an excellent job of distracting the public with trifling, unimportant matters while serious issues are going on directly under our noses.

Refugees arriving by boat is a national neurotic obsession.

Because our governments and their media compatriots obsess over it. It's pretty easy to get the mob to think what you want them to think.

No, it's what we, collectively, obsess over. Certain (particularly right-wing) politicians may have used it as a distraction, but the trick only works because we're neurotic about the issue.

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aikmann4 Gold Member Offline Posts: 2093 canberra	Re: Should East Timor have considered helping us? Reply #12 - Jul 14^th, 2010 at 1:01pm Seems pretty odd, but alright. The inhabitants of an island continent terrified of boats and the boat people.
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Reply #13 - Jul 14^th, 2010 at 3:00pm

skippy. wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 11:45am:

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I feel ashamed and embarrassed that Australia and the Australian people have became an international joke.

Really, can you supply your evidence that Australia is seen as an international joke? or are you just making it up? and stating YOUR OPINION rather than fact?

I'd guess the international joke would be the notion of Australians wanting to pack refugees on ships and transport them to an island upon which we will build a detention facility (prison)... I guess it's harder to see our own irony when we must live it as opposed to a perspective of detached observation.

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Deborahmac09 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1619	Re: Should East Timor have considered helping us? Reply #14 - Jul 14^th, 2010 at 6:02pm Australia needs to remember that they owe East Timor a debt, not the other way around. Our friends in East Timor should have this nations respect.
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