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Should East Timor have considered helping us? (Read 8401 times)
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Re: Should East Timor have considered helping us?
Reply #30 - Jul 14th, 2010 at 7:39pm
 
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Annie, parts of their culture were lost.

As I said, it depends how hardcore their beliefs are.

Christianity did not do them any favours. Should I say more correctly the churches did not do them any favours.

Hardcore beliefs destroy.


Yes, they do destroy.

The difference is, Indigenous Australians are converting because they want to, not because it's being rammed down their throats. I think in some cases Islam may even help preserve their culture.
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Re: Should East Timor have considered helping us?
Reply #31 - Jul 14th, 2010 at 7:44pm
 
Well said Annie.
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Reply #32 - Jul 14th, 2010 at 8:34pm
 
Not being rammed down their throats?

The bloke who lives at the end of my street is a prison officer, this and advised how Muslim 'activists' regularly visit in-mates (particularly indigenous in-mates)...this and bring them cigarettes snacks and reading material to indulge in.

Now, when your only visitor is a Muslim activist baring gifts,are you going to say no?

Smiley

Furthermore, why do Muslims refer to their sharing their faith as activism, this opposed to simply breeching or sharing their faith?

As though Islam were a right, an entitlement, not only a religion.

We couldn't care less if you believed in little green men from the planet Gribonoti, so why the need to refer to yourselves as 'activists', as though you are some sort of in-mate advocate/ societal support system, crotch, for misunderstood under-represented victims of our western criminal justice system.. is this how you see yourselves?

As saviours/activists?

Or is there a bit more to it..... Cool

And don't you get tired of playing victim in the mist,  in what will always be a western nation founded on both traditional indigenous and Christian values?

I think Our indigenous Australians have their own faith, this and are quite happy with it.... so why prey on those who would do anything for a visitor and a cigarette in prison?

And why only hand out smokes to those prepared to engage in prayer session on your magic carpets?

And do you really need an international Islamic prayer day, when you guys pull that magic carpet out several times a day, often expecting workplaces to pander to your beliefs and right to take regular prayer breaks?

Smiley And is Allah a smoker?

Christians hand out bibles, Muslim activists hand out smokes...better than petrol I guess....things could be worse I suppose, but is it not still condescending and degrading?

When you know all they really want is a smoke, not to listen to you spool your "activism" as though it were more than just a belief system.

How demoralising, are you trying to bribe them the way white people did when they first jumped off the first fleet?

No prises for second best, sorry.

Wink...  I think they have come along way since then, and think we all have in fact.

Or else a majority who accept your smokes in prison would be returning to your mosques when they get released.

Give Allah my regards, and let him know he has his work cut out for him when explaining how it's possible that there may still be such things as Muslim virgins on earth, when clearly no less than 72 per male are all up in heaven waiting for a root.

So, for every Muslim male there are 72 female virgins awaiting his humble arrival in Allah's kingdom?

Wow, talk about a man drought!
...So statistically, should you conceive 73 children, only one of them will be male according to Allah's divine preaching?

Not a bright lot are you...I would have thought you'd figured this out yourselves.

Where the hell do all these virgins come from?

Cool...Look, all faiths have their faults, (I'm atheist btw)...but really, 72 virgins for each Muslim man?

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Pulease, and are they recyclable?
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Re: Should East Timor have considered helping us?
Reply #33 - Jul 14th, 2010 at 8:46pm
 
What next, will Muslims be demanding land-rights?

Our indigenous Australians didn't come down with the last shower, they know a false profit baring gifts when they see one.

They have their own culture, one they are quite proud of or else they would be converting to Islam in droves, are you suggesting their culture is less significant than the Islamic faith?

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Reply #34 - Jul 14th, 2010 at 8:48pm
 

A count of hands please...

Hands up everybody who has been rudely-interrupted by:

1. Xtians

2. Muslims

Peddling their faith door-to-door?

You can put up both hands if you've been imposed upon by both...



My answer is [1. Xtians] - and I expect that the same would apply to the vast majority of Australians!

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Reply #35 - Jul 14th, 2010 at 8:52pm
 

Xtian nutjobs, of various denominations, have prowled all of the city and regional streets in which I have lived - typically several times a year!
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Reply #36 - Jul 14th, 2010 at 8:52pm
 
Millie doesn't know the difference between wacko and normal apparently.
News Millie, most people from all walks are normal not wacko.  Shocked

You are right thy, I have never had a muslim come to my door to annoy me by peddling their beliefs.

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Reply #37 - Jul 14th, 2010 at 8:58pm
 

I'm sure that most Muslim men would be as obsessed, with the promise of 72 virgins, as Western propagandists are - if they hadn't all found a way to die a premature death when their adolescent hormones were raging at their peak...
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Reply #38 - Jul 14th, 2010 at 9:02pm
 
Why do Muslims consider those who are not of the Muslim faith infidels?

And why do Muslim refugees sort refuge in western nations among infidels?

Ok, you might not be banging on our doors, but you intrude and make monetary demands in other ways,'uninvited'  is our not having to accommodate your belief systems a form of temple tax?

Given we are who helped build your mosques and Islamic schools afterall?

I think we have been overly accommodating, to a fault even.

And I think you know this too.

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Reply #39 - Jul 14th, 2010 at 9:16pm
 
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Why do Muslims consider those who are not of the Muslim faith infidels?


Same reason christians called those not of their faith and sometimes other christians heathen and/or infidel.
Same reason we call those with different beliefs derogatory names.
like Rightard and leftard to name only two others.
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Reply #40 - Jul 14th, 2010 at 9:21pm
 
Furthermore, Muslims 'activists' frequent social networking sites, this and have a tendency to take over message boards spooling Pro-Muslim propaganda the way you are now...

Is this not a form of door knocking, when all I came here for was to discuss Australian politics, though some how or another find myself interacting with Muslims whenever the subject of immigration comes up?

What about my right to engage in non-religious diatribe, given I don't believe in any sort of god, faith full stop.

From my experience online, the difference between Christian and Muslim religious zealots are as follows...

Christians will almost take pity on your soul for not believing in god, this and genuinely go out of their way to save you...as annoying as this can be at times, their hearts appear to be in the right place......whereas Muslims will condemn you, insult you, go so far as  to flame you off any given site, this and become very politically involved,  mixing their politics with their faith, as though the two work hand in hand.

Christians generally give up, this and accept the fact that despite your not being a Christian, you are still entitled to an opinion, whereas Muslims generally target and hound you, make it very clear your opinions, views  don't count, this and generally express contempt for those who appear to challenge them on any number of views, particularly if they are non-Muslims (infidels) and or female, as females are generally considered vessels for reproduction, are not generally considered educated learned beings entitled to an opinion,  least not on the subject of politics.

Know any female Muslim politicians from  the following Muslim majority nations?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_majority_countries

Or is it that these woman know their place, this and wouldn't dream of imposing their views on a more superior male?

Self destructive regressive barbarians.

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Reply #41 - Jul 14th, 2010 at 9:28pm
 
No Millie, it isn't a form of door knocking.
This nation has freedom of religion, so deal with it!
Islam has been in this country since before we were federated.
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Reply #42 - Jul 14th, 2010 at 9:35pm
 
Christians do not take pitty on your soul, they condemn it!
If you do not believe what we say, you will face fire and brimstone.
But if you believe, no matter what you do, you will be saved.
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Reply #43 - Jul 14th, 2010 at 9:40pm
 
Deborahmac09 wrote on Jul 14th, 2010 at 9:28pm:
No Millie, it isn't a form of door knocking.
This nation has freedom of religion, so deal with it!
Islam has been in this country since before we were federated.



Garbage!



Stop bank rolling your faith on Indigenous Australians entitlements, they are our traditional landowners, not Muslims.

  Cool And converting them to Muslim will not make you any more entitled to this country, as we only need to see what Islam has done to your own abandoned-nations you claim to seek asylum/refuge from as a matter of life and death, to realise the disadvantages of a prejudice, sexist oppressive country founded or disrupted by Islamic law.

If Islam was the better faith and the way forward, then why are you all trying to seek asylum in western nations ruled by infidels?

Cool You may dominate and grandstand over your woman, but to us, you are just a race of people who didn't progress/evolve the way the west have.

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Reply #44 - Jul 14th, 2010 at 9:43pm
 
Muslims have no cultural/historical connection/entitlement to Australia what so ever....
Cool
Just because we have a desert, doesn't mean it's yours.

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