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War on Drugs: $1 Trillion Wasted - Nothing Fixed
May 15th, 2010 at 8:04am
 
By using the Freedom of Information laws, the Associated Press has learned how some of our first trillion dollars in the failed "war on drugs" was spent. Here are the figures:

*$20 billion to fight the drug gangs in their home countries. In Colombia, for example, the United States spent more than $6 billion, while coca cultivation increased and trafficking moved to Mexico — and the violence along with it.
*$33 billion in marketing "Just Say No"-style messages to America's youth and other prevention programs. High school students report the same rates of illegal drug use as they did in 1970, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says drug overdoses have "risen steadily" since the early 1970s to more than 20,000 last year.
*$49 billion for law enforcement along America's borders to cut off the flow of illegal drugs. This year, 25 million Americans will snort, swallow, inject and smoke illicit drugs, about 10 million more than in 1970, with the bulk of those drugs imported from Mexico.
*$121 billion to arrest more than 37 million nonviolent drug offenders, about 10 million of them for possession of marijuana. Studies show that jail time tends to increase drug abuse.
*$450 billion to lock those people up in federal prisons alone. Last year, half of all federal prisoners in the U.S. were serving sentences for drug offenses.
*At the same time, drug abuse is costing the nation in other ways. The Justice Department estimates the consequences of drug abuse — "an overburdened justice system, a strained health care system, lost productivity, and environmental destruction" — cost the United States $215 billion a year.

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Reply #1 - May 15th, 2010 at 2:27pm
 
It's a fact of life that, if people want drugs they will get them.
Decriminalise them and sell them cheap in the chemist. This will have a bigger effect on the global drug trade than any law enforcement.
There is no real argument against decriminlisation because;
1 - the drugs are cleaner so there would be less health problems,
2 - the crime rate associated will illicit drugs is phenominal, this would be almost eliminated, at very least, reduced to a fraction of what it is today.
3 - it will not stop over doses but bad luck, natural selection works in mysterious ways.
That what I think anyway, and I am an ex drug addict.
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Reply #2 - May 15th, 2010 at 9:16pm
 
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I am an ex drug addict.


You know some people would just call you a 'quitter'. Wink

The simple fact of the matter is that drugs cost society in so many ways, not just financially.

I must admit to having some pretty grave concerns about speed, because people go off their flippin' rockers when they use that stuff for long, but I am sure they could work out some way to monitor it, and if there were lots of alternative ways to get off your tits that did not require the consumption of drugs that make you go all psychotic, then people would probably make do with that.

We will have to face the fact that we cannot change human nature, and the government could probably make some new cocktail drug up that would satisfy nearly everyone.

The money is the key, once you take the money incentive away, nobody will have a desire to see people become addicted.

Once it is not illegal, then taking drugs will not be cool, or rebellious, just a need, and it would be a need that could be managed far better than we currently do.

I really think that if all drugs were legalised, we would likely see a drop in the use of many of the more harmful drugs, plus we would see far fewer people running foul of the law, and judges could give sentences for real criminals based on what was most appropriate, without the pressure of worrying about over crowded jails, and a lack of facilities.
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Reply #3 - May 15th, 2010 at 11:50pm
 

decriminalising ALL drugs would cease the profits crims get from drugs.
It would decrease the detrimental overall effects of banned drugs.

literally speaking, 20 year ago you would say it would have been a liberal decision.

nowadays, its so far beyond a joke, it;s just sad.
So many lives wasted, so many resources wasted ..............


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Reply #4 - May 16th, 2010 at 8:48am
 
mozzaok wrote on May 15th, 2010 at 9:16pm:
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You know some people would just call you a 'quitter'. Wink


LOL, and proud to be one in this case. 8 years next month.
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Reply #5 - May 16th, 2010 at 7:29pm
 

well done merou.
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Reply #6 - May 16th, 2010 at 8:23pm
 
merou wrote on May 16th, 2010 at 8:48am:
mozzaok wrote on May 15th, 2010 at 9:16pm:
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You know some people would just call you a 'quitter'. Wink


LOL, and proud to be one in this case. 8 years next month.

Is it a case of 7 years, 10 months, 12 days, 9 hours, 6 minutes and 16... 17... 18 seconds?
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Reply #7 - May 17th, 2010 at 9:11am
 
I know you knew that I was only joking, and I expect you use the term ex-addict for the simple understanding it conveys to those with little understanding of the subject, but it is easier for them to relate to alcoholism, and the AA term of being an alcoholic for life, but some people make the choice to be alcoholics that no longer drink.
The same is true for addicts of all hues, they can never not be an addict, but they can be an addict that chooses not to use drugs anymore, they choose to take control of their own lives, and not allow drugs to control them.

Dry drunks, and straight addicts can offer great inspiration to people who fear they may never regain control of their lives, and the 13 step programs are very beneficial for many people, because the non active addicts show them the possibility of a changed life is not beyond them.
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Reply #8 - May 17th, 2010 at 11:55am
 
We need to make the prisions profitable.
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Reply #9 - May 28th, 2010 at 9:30am
 
party's who advocate drugs remind me of the cigarrette companies in tehir defences.
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Reply #10 - Jul 8th, 2010 at 2:14pm
 
There are some rehab centers to cure

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Reply #11 - Jul 10th, 2010 at 12:24am
 
locutius wrote on May 17th, 2010 at 11:55am:
We need to make the prisions profitable.


Yeah, that would be such an asset to society wouldn't it? Just like the U.S.



"What would you like to be when you grow up little Johnny?"

- "I'd like to be a prisoner so that I can contribute to society"


Get real. A "profitable prison" is a disaster for society.







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Reply #12 - Jul 11th, 2010 at 2:46am
 
And let's make that one trillion and one dollars shall we?
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Reply #13 - Jul 11th, 2010 at 6:02am
 
OK, I'm back. Bloody nice drive that   Smiley

As far as I know, I didn't kill anybody or smash anybody's property.
I must just be inherently responsible I suppose.







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Reply #14 - Nov 7th, 2012 at 6:31pm
 
I dont think the war was ever intended to be won.
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