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May 5th, 2010 at 9:52pm
 
Well most people realise that building operations, use a lot of power, which means they create a lot of CO2, and that currently stands at 40%, which is why we are looking to improve things like insulation, etc.

Now what most people probably do not realise is that 12% of CO2 emissions come from the production of building materials, which is 3% more than all the passenger cars in the world produce.

Transport is 15%, and Industry 24%, which we need to address as well, but the Building components is one thing we can change dramatically, and quickly, by just developing smarter techbnologies, and being prepared to consider alternatives to traditional methods and materials.

Now of course using timber is the most eco friendly way to build, and in the UK an architect built a great 9 story apartment building with all timber frame panels and mostly timber cladding, so strength wise, the new engineered timber products are really advancing the strength characteristics of timber.

But we still have huge demand for traditional products like plasterboard, or "drywall" as the rest of the world call it, and here is a link to a story about one man, and his company, who sought to improve the incredibly inefficient gypsum design, and has done so, with a saving of 90% emissions.

That is 90% SAVING!!!,
This should help us to keep a positive outlook, even in the face of government inaction, and incompetence, because we see real people in the real world, finding real solutions, and in the end, it is that which may just save us.
http://www.seriousmaterials.com/html/ecorock.html


Another cool product is an OSB sheet(that is Oriented Strand Board, which is like chip board but with big flakes of wood, rather than sawdust) that is made highly fire resistant by an incredibly thin layer of Magnesium Oxide applied over a very light fibreglass, which is bonded to the surface.
This coating makes an incredibly cheap and eco friendly product suitable for use as external cladding in high risk fire areas, and will reduce the costs, and carbon footprint of construction in high fire risk situations.

So, it is never ALL bad news. Smiley
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Reply #1 - May 6th, 2010 at 7:42am
 
Yeah if a shift towards responsible changes are to come about, it will be in spite of governments, not because of them.
Your post reminds me of this Thom Yorke track recorded a few years ago now, and nothing much has really changed. ..(You just move your hands upon) "The Clock".

I can't embed this track, it has to be watched on youtube.

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Reply #2 - May 6th, 2010 at 8:23am
 
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Another cool product is an OSB sheet(that is Oriented Strand Board, which is like chip board but with big flakes of wood, rather than sawdust) that is made highly fire resistant by an incredibly thin layer of Magnesium Oxide applied over a very light fibreglass, which is bonded to the surface.
This coating makes an incredibly cheap and eco friendly product suitable for use as external cladding in high risk fire areas, and will reduce the costs, and carbon footprint of construction in high fire risk situations.

Another cool product that is environmentally friendly is hemp, my neighbour is a leader in the field of wetlands, he uses hemp as a mop crop and then the fibre is made into usable products, he's in the process of building a house out of hemp bricks.
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Reply #3 - May 6th, 2010 at 9:20am
 
Yes indeed Skip, hemp is an incredibly prolific resource, and the unfortunate coincidence of the Drug War coming about, has seen the use of hemp sorely neglected for the best part of 80 years.

The potential for hemp use is high because of it's rapid growth, and good cell and fibre structure which may see it become available for things like the OSB style sheets I was talking about.
Timber is basically just cells that very slowly develop characteristics of strength and durability, but the slowness of it's development makes it a relatively expensive option.
We have seen science develop ways of impregnating the cell structures of softer, faster growing timbers, with proteins and stuff,(one study was done with rice starches I think) and transforming plain old radiata pine into a strength equivalent to mature hardwood species, and it is this type of process we can look forward to seeing reduce our reliance on the high energy using metal products that are so prevalent in building practices of today.

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Reply #4 - May 6th, 2010 at 10:32am
 
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Yes indeed Skip, hemp is an incredibly prolific resource, and the unfortunate coincidence of the Drug War coming about, has seen the use of hemp sorely neglected for the best part of 80 years.


Ain't that the truth.
As you said the war on weed besides being totally stupid has removed hemp from its position as a great resource, up until 80 years ago a lot of the ropes were made from hemp, its a great product for clothing as well as food as well as its obvious medicinal uses, but I( think it could make a come back via the building industry.
My neighbour that I mentioned before has had a license to grow it for the past 6 or 7 years, he even grows it as a mop crop for Byron council so besides using it as a mop crop when it is mature he harvests it and is having bricks made to build a house, its cheap and efficient, but you cant smoke he's weed, very low THC levels, though last year someone stole a couple of plants from the property next to mine where he was growing some of it, they must have got some good head aches trying to smoke it.
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Reply #5 - May 6th, 2010 at 10:54am
 
lol, I can just imagine the poor guys, come on just a few more cones, I think I can feel it starting to work(on his 248th cone).
The active component is so low in most of those traditional hemp species as to make them not worth being targeted by dope smokers, however they do produce good fibre structure for paper, cloth and as your neighbour is doing, making building products.
Traditionally the fibrous nature of the stalk was what was used t make rope, and sail cloth etc. but now I think we should try and concentrate on replacing much of the hardwood that goes into pulp paper production, with hemp fibre, and retain more of our solid timber for building functions.

How many crops a year does your neighbour get?
People talk of getting four a year, and in tropical climates that may be possible.

I know you can cycle dope plants down to a 12 week period quite successfully, but ones grown naturally over a 16 week cycle grow much larger. It would be interesting to know what your neighbour's yields are like. In the old hemp fields it was effectively all stalk and stem, with minimal leaf coverage, but I expect they have bred better characteristics into modern strains.
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Reply #6 - May 6th, 2010 at 11:40am
 
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How many crops a year does your neighbour get?
People talk of getting four a year, and in tropical climates that may be possible.

I know you can cycle dope plants down to a 12 week period quite successfully, but ones grown naturally over a 16 week cycle grow much larger. It would be interesting to know what your neighbour's yields are like. In the old hemp fields it was effectively all stalk and stem, with minimal leaf coverage, but I expect they have bred better characteristics into modern strains


I'm not sure on how many crops a year he is growing but I would expect a few,what he does do is grow a huge amount of plants in an area, because he isn't growing it for consumption it doesn't need to be grown like a normal plant( you dont have to worry about males or females) and as you said he is harvesting the stem as much as anything.
I helped him plant his first crop about seven years ago and we used about an acre of land with about twenty seeds to a square metre,he's probably fine tuned a bit since then.
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Reply #7 - May 7th, 2010 at 9:57am
 
What is it with hemp? I just see a hidden agenda in planting commercial properties of a plant which looks exactly like marijuana. Hide your cannabis in a hemp field and nobody will know the difference?

Why not go recycled instead for building materials?
Cardboard!

You can also get cardboard furniture.

http://www.siol.net/slovenija/zanimivosti/2010/04/umetnost_skozi_karton.aspx

Some of it is quite stylish:

http://www.wix.com/maja111/cardbordfurniture

Check out the fotogalerija.

Sorry it's in Slovenian. Slovenia seems to be the world leader in making strange things from cardboard. What's next? Cardboard cars - or cars made from hemp?   hmmm I think I'll pass that one - very quickly.  
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Reply #8 - May 7th, 2010 at 11:03am
 
muso wrote on May 7th, 2010 at 9:57am:
What is it with hemp? I just see a hidden agenda in planting commercial properties of a plant which looks exactly like marijuana. Hide your cannabis in a hemp field and nobody will know the difference?

Why not go recycled instead for building materials?
Cardboard!

You can also get cardboard furniture.

http://www.siol.net/slovenija/zanimivosti/2010/04/umetnost_skozi_karton.aspx

Some of it is quite stylish:

http://www.wix.com/maja111/cardbordfurniture

Check out the fotogalerija.

Sorry it's in Slovenian. Slovenia seems to be the world leader in making strange things from cardboard. What's next? Cardboard cars - or cars made from hemp?   hmmm I think I'll pass that one - very quickly.  


I've noticed a local company making coffins in recycled cardboard, good idea.
As for hemp, well you couldn't plant marijuana with hemp because the hemp male plants would affect the real weed.
Where I live is in the GREEN triangle, lots of people grow pot around here, its the main cash crop of the area and lots of my neighbours were pizzed off with my neighbour who did the hemp trials around here as the seed can travel in the wind and spoil "real plants".

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Reply #9 - May 7th, 2010 at 12:02pm
 
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What is it with hemp? I just see a hidden agenda in planting commercial properties of a plant which looks exactly like marijuana. Hide your cannabis in a hemp field and nobody will know the difference?


lol, if you had "dope" plants that looked like a hemp crop, I can guarantee you would be very disappointed. Grin

Now I tend to think the guys at the following site are possibly "gilding the lily" a bit, when waxing lyrical about the wonders of hemp, the fact remains that it is a fast growing resource that provides valuable cellulose fibre from an easy to grow plant.
[url][http://www.greenhemp.com/hempinformation.html[url]
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