I was just going to respond and you deleted your post Auzgurl. Telstra is so desperate now, after ripping customers off for so long - they're practically giving their service away if you can get through to someone to complain.

Optus has some excellent "fusion" plans and you can get onto a real live person very quickly.

I use my mobile as little as possible--the digital phones broadcast very strong radiation.


I use a 3 mobile broadband USB dongle and am trying to get that working again after I updated my Mac Mini to Snow Leopard.

muso wrote on Nov 4^th, 2009 at 12:12pm:


Doesn't it depend on the carrier? Some mobile phone companies have a higher output of radiation depending on the strength or weakness of their frequency.

There have been many cases of brain cancer "assumed" to be linked to mobile phone usage, but as this technology hasn't been around for that long - we won't really know until Generation Y become mature adults - many being prolific users since early childhood.

As far as carriers go - I use an Optus Fusion plan - $100 per month, unlimited national, mobile, local and 131 nos. plus 20 gb of DSL. Great value.

mantra wrote on Nov 5^th, 2009 at 7:41am:


Wow. Where do I begin? It's a bit more complicated than that. Most mobile phones are dual band - some are triband. The actual frequency used depends on where you're using it and which Network to some extent, but there is actually very little difference between the Optus and Testra Mobile backbones. Optus 3G is on 2100Mhz/900Mhz while Telstra Next G is on 1800/850Mhz.

All the other services use one or the other - actually Vodaphone is an exception to that.  

The Australian safety limit is 2 watts per kilogram.

"Mobile Phones automatically adjust to the minimum power level to sucessfully connect and maintain a quality call".

" For every unit of distance (the aerial is ) away from your head the emission level level drops off twice as much." (inverse square law)

Online references:

[ARPANSA=Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency-

http://www.arpansa.gov.au/mobilephones/index.cfm
- may be of assistance.

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If you read and use the link above you will find some people who know what they are talking about.

Here are some links from people who sell protective devices, just for balance:

www.sarshield.com ,

Mobile Phone Manufacturers Forum
, [url=sar.nokia.com/sar/index.jsp]sar.nokia.com/sar/index.jsp


Radio waves are produced by such equipment as TV sets, mobile phones, microwave ovens and many other devices. Your exposure sitting in front of a TV is about the same as using a mobile phone, of course depending on how close you are.

LCD Televisions are an exception.

With phones, it doesn't matter much whether it's a 2G or 3G phone, there is not much difference between the frequencies. Different methods of modulation may modulate radio waves but the radio waves still exist with the different methods of modulation.

Here's another good link:

www.madsci.org/posts/arc...019028.Cb.r.html
Re: Can the radio waves affect the structure of a human cells?

Well of course they can if you increase the power enough. Your microwave operates at 2400 Mhz, but the typical power is around 1000 - 2000 Watts compared to 0.5 Watts for a typical phone.  

The bottom line is that there is no link between brain cancer and mobile phone use.  Given the safety factor involved, I'd say that such a link would be highly unlikely but not impossible.

Put it this way, apples contain carcinogens. Can we say that apples don't cause cancer? - Well no we can't, but there are so many other causes that the risk of getting cancer from eating apples is negligible.  

We can speak in the same terms about the risk of brain cancer from mobile phone use. The risk is negligible and would be next to impossible to prove, given all the other accumulated risks.

If that has cleared things up for you, I'm glad to be of assistance. If it has just confused you, I'm sorry, but some things are very complicated.

Just to show that I'm not BS'ing totally, here is a report that backs up my claims:

http://www.sarshield.com/news/USATODAY_com%20-%20Cancer%20study%20may%20help%20M...

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Now that might be true, but the overall use of mobile phones has gone up considerably. If there is any area that causes me concern, it's the fact that very young children are using mobile phones regularly. That increases the exposure considerably over a lifetime. There are quite a few unknowns there, and if I had young children, I wouldn't allow them to use a mobile phone. In fact I was continually telling my kids not to sit too close to the TV. The old CRT TV's used to emit a steady stream of high energy electrons.

I remember reading an article some time ago that put the EM radiation at 700% more from an AMPS phone compared to a GSM phone. (I wish I could find it) The risk would be very similar to that for Next G and 3G phones.