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I don't really know of many cultures that don't do this, and the glaring double standard that you're describing is actually quite normal. Everybody is out for themselves and their group, and they'll convive, conspire, complain and subvert to get what they want. It reminds me of the current Arizona illegal immigration controversy that is going on in the United States; Mexicans complaining about Arizonans coming down "hard" on people who violate the immigration laws of the United States, yet at the same time, the Mexicans have a much more gruesome (and I suppose effective) way of dealing with illegal immigrants who cross over into Mexico from Guatemala; machine gun nests. Multiculturalism as an official ideology is an exquisite invitation for all the opportunists of the world to pursue their interests in the midst of aliens, and now, its even becoming acceptable for them to *overtly* do so, making the whole situation even more ridiculous and insane.

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 7^th, 2010 at 7:17pm:



Criminals in jails, openly rejecting western jurisdictions in the name of islam - not representativ.
Terrorists and head-hackers who commit attrocities in the name of Islam are not representative.
Muslim hoons beating up life guards are not representative.
Muslim 'youths' burning cars and rioting in France for weeks - not representative.
Muslims raping 'Aussie pigs Leb style' are not representative
Muslims blowing up trains and shooting commuters in India are not representative.
Muslims flying planes into building, shouting 'Allahu Akhbar' are not representative.
Muslims self detonating in underground trains and buses in London, above ground trains  in Madrid, bars in Bali are not representative.
Imams comparing western women to cat's meat are not representative.
Muslims on welfare in Melbourne plotting an attack are not representative.
Other Muslims plotting an attack on Holdsworthy are not representative.
Muslim psychiatist killing his 'comrades in arms' on an American army base is not representative.
Disproportionate number of Muslim prisoners in every western country  - not representative.
Jihad against Rushdie, cartoons, South Park are not representative.
Muslim killer of a Dutch film maker, a Japanese translator are not representative.
Muslims raping scandinavian women like it's an industry - not represenative.
Muslims killing Thais, Hindus, Africans in the name of Islam are not representative.
Muslims occupying a school and killing children in Beslan are not representative.
Muslim suicide bombers in pizza parlours, buses, markets, universities are not representative.
Muslims occupying an embassy and taking hostages v
Muslims kidnapping olympic sportsmen are not representative.


Every time (ie daily) a Muslim does something evil - it's not representative.

For a useful idiot like you, Annie and Karnal, the list can be as long as your arm -but to your mind it will not be representative.

mozzaok wrote on May 8^th, 2010 at 8:03am:

The mistake many of us make is that we judge Islam solely as a religion and don't quite understand that it is also an expansionist, vengeful, militaristic political system that demands of every Muslim his absolute loyalty in defence of its goals by whatever means available.

All sorts of people do evil. The list is about what Muslims do in the name of Islam. That's the difference.

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 8^th, 2010 at 5:22pm:



It is not a copout, it is the only pertinent point in all discussions about Muslims. The list I gave you are acts committed by Muslims as Muslims. I didn't list ordinary crimes that all sorts of people commit. I mentioned only things that they do under the self-justifying cloak of their muslim identity.
I take them at their word and don't infantilise them. If they say they do something with the blessing of Islam, I believe them.

Well I can most certainly understand Annie's perspective, I used to hold the same views myself, and to a very large degree, I still think they are very valid, I do howvere hold a far deeper mistrust of Islam than I previously did, so whilst I agree that we should not tar all muslims with the same brush, as terrorists, or criminals, we do still need to recognise behavioural traits they do share.

BTW, I LOVE Annie's avatar, it's worth starting an argument just to see it.

The Northmen kick the living poo out of Muslims in the coolness factor though.



"Oh God, save us from the fury of the Northmen!"

It's hard to imagine how terrifying these blonde haired, blue eyed giants were to everybody they terrorized and encountered; Europeans, Arabs, and even Native Americans weren't spared from their raids.

mozzaok wrote on May 8^th, 2010 at 6:13pm:


The return of the repressed....