When a non-moslem community 'accommodates' a large group of moslems within their own community

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Muslims have been in Australia since the earliest days of white settlement (and before), yet strangely

no supposedly alleged planned terrorist attacks were discovered until Australia began helping the U.S (for some stupid shirt-tail riding reason) invade Muslim countries and murder hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian Muslims.

.. but of course those events aren't linked at all... And to suggest as such would be "justifying" said terrorist acts... right?

Yadda,

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Just wondering do you consider that mankind has a protector other than God?

If you agree to this, then what do those who reject God have?

I'm just a little confused as to exactly why you keep posting this verse and giving some subtle hint that it supposedly is a mark against Muslims?

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."

The murder of Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf [a critic of Muhammad] was a straight out *political* assasination!

......Q #2,
And, if Allah is an all powerful god, how could a mere man, Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf [as stated in the Hadith], have *hurt* Allah, who is an all powerful god?

If a moslems tells me, "You i must submit to Allah. And if you will not, i will cut off your head!",
.....what choice do i have?

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None, that's why Islam forbids such practises.

Funny isn't this the same thing you and your mate Calanen are now claiming against Muslims? When Jews did it to Muslims, it was good though... right?

abu,

Whether you admit it or not...

Whether you admit it or not, all moslems worship Mohammed.

Those who are convicted of committing acts of terror, or preparing to commit acts of terror should be shot for treason, or hung. Not beheaded.

Sorry, but this kind of mumbo jumbo argument tends to discredit anything worthwhile you might've had to say Calanen (which wasn't much anyway).

Banu Qurayza were fought

for allying with and assisting the invading Pagan/Jewish alliance during the Battle of al-Ahzab, not for not embracing Islam. You'd better re-check your history Yadda. Remember, truth...

Don't be an apostle of inveracity.

Well you wont find us running around intentionally murdering innocents

Kinda like the hundreds of thousands of civilians nuked into oblivion 64 years ago yesterday. Not innocent, they deserved to die... right? 

what, you mean nagasaki, in the war ??

Best to just stay in your delusional little world, where Muslims are the big bad boogey-men and the West are all love, freedom, democracy and tip-toeing through the daisy fields.

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 10^th, 2009 at 4:52pm:


It's about this time I like to pause for a moment in solidarity with the Kurdish people... They have a successful and stable autonomous Iraqi Kurdistan for the first time in a while. Safe, finally, from the butchering they've received from Iraqis, Iranians and Turks.

.....They have a successful and stable autonomous Iraqi Kurdistan for the first time in a while.

Safe, finally, from the butchering they've received from Iraqis [MOSLEMS], Iranians [MOSLEMS] and Turks [MOSLEMS].

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 10^th, 2009 at 11:17pm:




Are Muslims responsible for anything is Muslim countries?

A Melbourne man has pleaded guilty to being a member of a terrorist organisation and to being involved in preparing for a terrorist act.

The retrial of 32-year-old Shane Kent was due to start in the Victorian Supreme Court on Tuesday, but before it could begin Kent pleaded guilty to the two charges which stem from a police investigation going back five years.

Kent's offences were part of a plan to carry out a terrorist attack on a major Melbourne landmark.

Today he pleaded guilty to knowingly being a member of a terrorist organisation between July 2004 and November 2005. The indictment says the terrorist group was preparing an attack involving weapons or bombs.

He also admitted guilt on one count of making a document connected with preparation for a terrorist act and being reckless about that connection. That charge relates to a video he helped make.

A third charge to do with supporting Al Qaeda was dropped.

Kent is by no means unfamiliar with court appearances. Last September a jury failed to reach a verdict on charges against him.

In an eight-month trial a jury was told Kent had travelled overseas and taken part in about two months' training which involved the use of guns and explosives.

In one tapped phone call, submitted as evidence in that trial, Kent berates a co-accused for discussing matters on the phone.

That trial was told the group of 12 men planned to launch an attack on the 2005 AFL Grand final at the MCG.

The original trial heard he was a member of a terror group led by a Melbourne man who styled himself as a Muslim cleric.

The leader was found guilty of directing the activities of a terrorist organisation and was sentenced to at least 12 years in jail. Six other members of the group were also sentenced to prison.

Despite no verdict being reached on Kent last year,

the Muslim convert

is no stranger to prison. Since his arrest in November 2005 he has spent about three years behind bars.

Today Kent stood before Justice David Byrne wearing an ash coloured shirt with a casual jacket. He stood stony faced as his lawyer John Champion, SC, made the case for continued bail.

Kent was granted bail on strict conditions in October last year, a month after the first trial came to an end.

For nine months he has been under night-time curfew and has had his phone and internet access restricted.

He has had to report to Broadmeadows police daily and provide them with the registration details of any car he plans to travel in.

Mr Champion told the court those conditions have worked well and there is no reason to believe his client is a flight risk or that he harbours any ongoing desire to commit violent jihad.

Mr Champion detailed a psychological report on Kent which says he is depressed and highly anxious and that his condition is likely to deteriorate if his treatment stops.

The father of three is also expecting another child and the court was asked to allow him to stay at home so he can support his family.

But under the Crimes Act the case requires exceptional circumstances to be proved when any case for bail is being made.

The Crown opposed bail and without disclosing his reasons Justice Byrne ruled that it would not be granted.

Kent's supporters sobbed as the ruling was made.

He will be in court again next month for a pre-sentence hearing.

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