mantra wrote on Aug 15
th, 2009 at 8:22am:
Quote:Where are the free speech fanatics now? Seems freedom of speech is only enforced when it's the ability to freely vilify and denigrate Islam. The hypocrisy of democracy
As Soren & Calanen said - it was disobeying the Court Order, rather than what he actually said about Jews.
Muslims cop more than their fair share of abuse,
Not in my eyes.
ISLAM is a death cult, and in a country
such as Australia, ISLAM should be criticised, and ISLAM should be proscribed.
And much to abu's disappointment, i am sure!, i am not holding my breath [for such a circumstance to eventuate].
Quote:......but there are all sorts of laws in place to protect them. If you found a site (hopefully not this one) where Muslims are denigrated and threatened, Muslims would probably have some success gagging the site owner.
Toben's penalty does seem very harsh though - perhaps the Judge had a Jewish mother. You'd spend less time in gaol for stabbing someone.
I saw a documentary the other night on a Sharia Court in Nigeria. The people of this town, Christians and Muslims alike, chose to use Sharia Law because it was quicker and fairer and they didn't use solicitors.
It was very impressive because the magistrate, although harsh, was very intelligent. In 7 years there had only been 2 amputations and that was because the defendants chose not to appeal and welcomed the punishment because it brought them closer to Allah.
Even the public lashings for alcoholism were a great deterrant and crime which had previously created enormous problems had dropped to almost nothing.
mantra,
A political and religious tyranny may produce fear, and superficial, observable, outward, compliance [to laws of a country].
But the fear created by
the violence of tyranny
, does not create a healthy, or a just society.
If it did, all Sharia jurisdictions, all moslem countries,
would be examples to us all
[to non-moslem societies], of how justice and peace can be achieved for mankind.
Yet, it is evident, that all, yes,
all
moslem / Sharia societies are violent, repressive, and unjust places.
You want Justice and Peace?
Free and open, spoken, expressed TRUTH, produces an environment for justice to flourish.
Peace is abundant, in places where justice is abundant, and is the norm.
Justice is nurtured alone, by free and open TRUTH.
Google,
saudi maid abusehttp://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=saudi+maid+abuse&btnG=Google+Search&meta...
March 25, 2005
Maid May Lose Fingers, Toes after Sponsor Abuse
By Hassan Adawi
JEDDAH — A 25-year-old Indonesian woman who came to Saudi Arabia as a guest worker will have several of her fingers, toes and part of her right foot amputated because of gangrene after being tied up for a month in a bathroom by her Saudi sponsor, who also apparently beat her severely, injuring her eye and knocking several of her teeth out.
....M. Sukiarto of the Indonesian Embassy noted earlier this year that a total of 2,000 housemaids have been repatriated to Indonesia so far this year, with many alleging maltreatment, nonpayment of wages or physical abuse by their sponsors.
http://www.natashatynes.org/newswire/2005/03/indonesian_maid.html
22 May 2008
Saudi maid verdict 'outrageous'
Human Rights Watch has called on Saudi judges to overturn a decision to drop charges against a Saudi couple accused of severely abusing an Indonesian maid.
A judge in Riyadh awarded $670 damages to the maid, Nour Miyati, but dropped all charges against her employers.
......Ms Miyati, 25, contracted gangrene after allegedly being tied up for a month and left without food in 2005. She had to have several fingers and toes amputated.
New York-based Human Rights Watch called for an appeals court to "impose stiff penalties on the employers, including imprisonment, and payment of significant financial compensation".
Saudi officials have not commented on the report.
.....A prior Saudi judgement, subsequently overturned, had seen Ms Miyati convicted of falsely accusing her employers and sentenced to 79 lashes.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7415290.stmN.B.....
I did NOT focus on Saudi Arabia here, above, because i judge it as the worst example of the injustice, in moslem countries.
I used Saudi Arabia as an example, merely because
Saudi Arabia is the pre eminent moslem country
.
I used Saudi Arabia as an example, because,
moslems themselves claim
that Sharia / moslem societies are
the
most just.