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Reply #15 - Aug 9^th, 2009 at 2:19pm

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 9^th, 2009 at 2:02pm:

Banu Qurayza were fought
for allying with and assisting the invading Pagan/Jewish alliance during the Battle of al-Ahzab, not for not embracing Islam. You'd better re-check your history Yadda. Remember, truth...

abu,

Banu Qurayza didn't fight Mohammed.

They were besieged

by Mohammed, because they previously refused to join Mohammed, in one of his other massacres.

And after their surrender, they were beheaded, BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT CONVERT TO ISLAM.

And after Mohammed and his henchmen MURDERED these 900 Jewish men, who surrendered to them, Mohammed and his men then raped their wives and daughters.

Merciful Allah be praised!
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Reply #16 - Aug 9^th, 2009 at 2:31pm

Seems your 'sources' have been having a lend of you, knowing your kind are not the most thorough when it comes to authenticating accusations.

Banu Qurayza were inhabitants of Medinah (ie. they were subjects of the Islamic State), they gave their allegiance to Muhammad (pbuh) and when their fellow Jews invaded (alongside the Pagans) Banu Qurayza allied with them and turned against the Islamic State. For that, their own ally from Aws, decreed they should be fought, for having committed treachery during a time of war.

Funny isn't this the same thing you and your mate Calanen are now claiming against Muslims? When Jews did it to Muslims, it was good though... right?

More hypocrisy from the apostle of mendacity.

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Re: muslims significantly increase terrorist risks
Reply #17 - Aug 9^th, 2009 at 3:03pm

abu,

Whether you admit it or not, Mohammed was a pirate, and a ruthless murderer.

Whether you admit it or not, all moslems worship Mohammed.
....all of Allah words, came out of the lips of one man
, Mohammed.

Whether you admit it or not, Mohammed is the idol of all moslems.

Whether you admit it or not, moslems are murderers, and wanna-be murderers.

Whether you admit it or not, ISLAM is wicked and evil.

Whether you admit it or not, ISLAM is a wicked death cult.

25 May 2007
"......Al-Faisal spent years travelling the UK preaching racial hatred urging his audience to kill Jews, Hindus and Westerners.
......But throughout the trial he denied he had intended to incite people to violence.
......he argued his talks came from the Koran and if he was on trial so was the holy text."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6692243.stm

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"

....."the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

ISLAMIC 'scholar', Sayyid Qutb
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8802-2243871,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb

I don't expect repentance abu,
......i know that you will just keep denying the TRUTH.

Its just your nature, you can't help it.

Islam is a lie and truth is killing it.

Posted by: Alaskan
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023681.php#c602782

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Re: muslims significantly increase terrorist risks
Reply #18 - Aug 9^th, 2009 at 3:05pm

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Funny isn't this the same thing you and your mate Calanen are now claiming against Muslims? When Jews did it to Muslims, it was good though... right?

Yes Yadda and I were just having a chat about the need for beheading 800 captives and raping their wives, and slaughtering another people because we didn't believe what they did. No, hang on, only muslims do that.

Those who are convicted of committing acts of terror, or preparing to commit acts of terror should be shot for treason, or hung. Not beheaded.

After a fair trial, of course.

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ISLAM is a vicious [un-reformable] political tyranny, which has always murdered its critics, and it continues that practice even today.

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Re: muslims significantly increase terrorist risks
Reply #19 - Aug 9^th, 2009 at 3:37pm

Calanen wrote on Aug 9^th, 2009 at 3:05pm:

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Funny isn't this the same thing you and your mate Calanen are now claiming against Muslims? When Jews did it to Muslims, it was good though... right?

Yes Yadda and I were just having a chat about the need for beheading 800 captives and raping their wives, and slaughtering another people because we didn't believe what they did. No, hang on, only muslims do that.

Those who are convicted of committing acts of terror, or preparing to commit acts of terror should be shot for treason, or hung. Not beheaded.

After a fair trial, of course.

Yadda previously said.....

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WHAT SHOULD BE DONE [here, in Australia] REGARDING ISLAM?

.....It should be our governments policy,......

An open letter to Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1247892235/2#2

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Re: muslims significantly increase terrorist risks
Reply #20 - Aug 9^th, 2009 at 4:37pm

Yadda,

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abu,

Whether you admit it or not...

In other words you've come to the realisation your accusations about Islam do not coincide with historical fact, so now you're going to diverge off on another rant about Islam in general. Don't you get sick of copy-pasting these pre-fab quotes of yours?

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Whether you admit it or not, all moslems worship Mohammed.

Quite rich coming from someone who openly admits to worshipping a human being.

Calanen,

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Those who are convicted of committing acts of terror, or preparing to commit acts of terror should be shot for treason, or hung. Not beheaded.

That's about the best you can honestly do, is bicker about the means of execution. In those days, beheading was the standard method, as it was in all the world. Beheading is no more inhumane than tying a rope around someone's neck and asphyxiating them to death or spraying their body with little lead pellets moving at extremely high velocity... although you seem to think it's somehow more civil.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: muslims significantly increase terrorist risks Reply #21 - Aug 9^th, 2009 at 5:04pm Good grief. Let me put this to you then Aboo. If there were no Muslims in Australia, we would not be at risk here from Islamic based terrorism. Fairly irrefutable I'd think.
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: muslims significantly increase terrorist risks Reply #22 - Aug 9^th, 2009 at 6:15pm Likewise if there were no Catholics here, you wouldn't be at risk of IRA terrorism either. No Tamils, no risk of Tamil Tiger terrorism.. etc. Goes without saying doesn't it?
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Re: muslims significantly increase terrorist risks
Reply #23 - Aug 9^th, 2009 at 6:39pm

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 9^th, 2009 at 6:15pm:

Likewise if there were no Catholics here, you wouldn't be at risk of IRA terrorism either.

No Tamils, no risk of Tamil Tiger terrorism..

etc.

Goes without saying doesn't it?

We were never at risk of IRA terrorism. And the IRA never wanted to take over Australia and install Papal law.

Beheading captives in a war is a very different thing from executing people who supposedly have allegiance to the state and seek to overthrow it. 1) they get a trial and 2) they get a choice whether to commit the acts or not. The Jews Mohammed killed had no choice, they were just terrorised and killed with some flimsy pretext about them breaking the treaty the justification.

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ISLAM is a vicious [un-reformable] political tyranny, which has always murdered its critics, and it continues that practice even today.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: muslims significantly increase terrorist risks Reply #24 - Aug 9^th, 2009 at 6:41pm Did you answer my question? Or not? I'm guessing not. Tamils are't waging war on the Western world. Nor are Catholics BTW. Or even those people in the IRA. Yet some Muslims have been planning terrorist atrocities against innocent Australians. Are you in DENIAL of that?
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Re: muslims significantly increase terrorist risks
Reply #25 - Aug 9^th, 2009 at 6:55pm

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Beheading captives in a war is a very different thing from executing people who supposedly have allegiance to the state and seek to overthrow it.

Glad you agree.

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1) they get a trial

It depends on the state and the circumstances. In a small city-state, 1400 years ago, with a population of a few thousand, where the entire state was witness to their treachery, not much need for a lengthy trial. Although they were given a trial of sorts anyway (nevermind the historical facts though, they tend to get in the way of braindead accusations). A council of their allies amongst the Medinians dleiberated over their case, and pronounced the judgement on them.

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2) they get a choice whether to commit the acts or not.

You get a choice on whether to commit treason against the state? Not quite sure what you mean by this, do continue...

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The Jews Mohammed killed had no choice, they were just terrorised and killed with some flimsy pretext about them breaking the treaty the justification.

Well anyone who has any dealings with a Muslim gets 'terrorised' in your view, so that's hardly surprising. You do realise you're just de-valuing the term by throwing it around so loosely don't you? Fighting a neighbouring state in war is terrorism, fighting invading armies who've come to slaughter you is terrorism, executing treasonous citizens who are assisting an invading army is terrorism... not much that isn't, is there?

Sorry, but this kind of mumbo jumbo argument tends to discredit anything worthwhile you might've had to say Calanen (which wasn't much anyway).

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Re: muslims significantly increase terrorist risks
Reply #26 - Aug 9^th, 2009 at 7:10pm

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Sorry, but this kind of mumbo jumbo argument tends to discredit anything worthwhile you might've had to say Calanen (which wasn't much anyway).

Let me make this quite clear - I NEVER expect you to agree with me about anything. You have decided that you are against this society, this country its people, and its government. You seek to tear it down and enable those who would wish to.

Anything I say is never for your benefit - it's for the people who are watching.

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ISLAM is a vicious [un-reformable] political tyranny, which has always murdered its critics, and it continues that practice even today.

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Re: muslims significantly increase terrorist risks
Reply #28 - Aug 10^th, 2009 at 12:53pm

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 9^th, 2009 at 2:02pm:

Banu Qurayza were fought
for allying with and assisting the invading Pagan/Jewish alliance during the Battle of al-Ahzab, not for not embracing Islam. You'd better re-check your history Yadda. Remember, truth...

Don't be an apostle of inveracity.

Mohammed 'manufactured' a pretext to besiege the Jewish community of Banu Qurayza, because he knew well, that they were a wealthy community of artisans and goldsmiths.

And, Mohammed was a treacherous, greedy, murdering pirate, who wanted their wealth, and their women and children, as slaves.

Period.

You worship a man, who was a ruthless murderer
.

That fact
is presented in, and is confirmed by, ISLAM's own historical documents.

YOUTUBE audio presentations,

Part 007 - Jihad in Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeVh2EeG8H4

Part 009 - Was Muhammad a Prophet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFoj7z2ABQE

Part 016 - Quran Against Jews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_i6r-FYrIc

Part 022 - Quran Against Arabs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hLbI938shA

Part 033 - Muhammad's Compassion and Mercy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQHjtrpGtfg

Part 039 - Arab and Islamic Imperialism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLfowOSVNYs

Part 040 - Allah's 10pc Share of Muhammad's Plunder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc3jgwTJ1cw

Part 045A - Jews of Arabia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdyLGXskMTg

Part 045B - Jews of Arabia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35xeq2aOOco

Part 048 - Male Muhammadan Characteristics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6YOzjx5ZzM

Listen to them all.....

A full list of all, al Rassooli's "AhmadsQuran3" talks, available on YOUTUBE....
http://www.al-rassooli.com/ahmadsquran3/

http://www.inthenameofallah.org/

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Re: muslims significantly increase terrorist risks
Reply #29 - Aug 10^th, 2009 at 2:26pm

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Mohammed 'manufactured' a pretext to besiege the Jewish community of Banu Qurayza...

You have that suspicion, because you know full well that's what your own countries are doing in Muslim countries right now. Your integrity is about as extant as the WMD in Iraq Grin

So it's no wonder you would be skeptical about others, since it's how you think...

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