abu_rashid wrote on Aug 9
th, 2009 at 11:49am:
Yadda,
Quote:The declared admonishment, against all non-moslems, in the Koran.....
"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Just wondering do you consider that mankind has a protector other than God?
abu,
That depends.
Do you believe that an entity called SATAN protects his servants?
Quote:If you agree to this, then what do those who reject God have?
I'm just a little confused as to exactly why you keep posting this verse and giving some subtle hint that it supposedly is a mark against Muslims?
abu,
If,
Quote:"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
......i could also ask, Why do moslems need to protect Allah from hurt?
Is Allah, the all powerful God of the universe?,
OR,
....are moslems deluded, and the murderers of those human beings who don't believe, as they [moslems] believe?
An EXAMPLE, expounding my point......
Quote:The murder of Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf [a critic of Muhammad] was a straight out *political* assasination!
......Q #2,
And, if Allah is an all powerful god, how could a mere man, Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf [as stated in the Hadith], have *hurt* Allah, who is an all powerful god?
MUSLIMS ARE SELF DECEIVERShttp://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1226196753/0#0abu,
I believe that this life, is a test, and that my God is testing me, as an individual, by giving me choices, every day!
If a moslems tells me,
"You i must submit to Allah. And if you will not, i will cut off your head!"
,
.....what choice do i have?
The purpose of this life, is to demonstrate, to GOD, and ourselves, that we know how to choose, that which is good, and to reject, what is evil.
"We choose.
And [if we seek to please God] we separate ourselves from the wicked.
.....[but we don't murder them, in our imagined 'righteousness'.]
When we separate ourselves from the wickedness,
.....we demonstrate that we know that we are the children of God, "
Christians' relationships with Infidelshttp://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1237211463/3#3++++++++++++
Psalms 11:4
The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
Physical 'Israel' in the Bible, is a analogy, of who are Gods people.
We [as individuals], are Gods', 'Israel' if we choose to be.....
'Israel's' story, 'Israel's' HIS-story, in the Bible, was meant, was intended, as an example, to all mankind.
Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined thee [Israel], but not with silver;
I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.We are all God's [spirit] children, who [in this 'life'] inhabit this 'prison', our earthen bodies.
Lamentations 3:33
For he doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the children of men.
34 To crush under his feet all
the prisoners of the earth,
We, individually,
will be redeemed,
if we demonstrate, that we understand God's love.
We demonstrate that we understand God's love, when we, as individuals, repent our lives, on this earth.
Psalms 69:32
The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live that seek God.
33 For the LORD heareth the poor, and despiseth not his prisoners.