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Reply #30 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 7:44am
 
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This is a story of a lady who was verbally abused by some red necked scumbags, and they got off because they judge too was a red necked scumbag.

This is quite clearly "kuffar behaving badly" and getting away with it.

Here's a more neutral report from your ABC:



British hoteliers cleared of abusing Muslim


Posted Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:44am AEDT


A Christian couple who run a hotel in northern England have been cleared of abusing a Muslim guest for wearing a hijab and then insulting her beliefs.

Benjamin and Sharon Vogelenzang were accused of launching a tirade against British Muslim convert Ericka Tazi, 60, at their hotel in Liverpool, where she had been staying while she attended a course at a local hospital in March.

Ms Tazi, who converted to Islam 18 months ago, said they had laughed at her when she wore a hijab on the last day of her stay.

She said Dutch-born Benjamin Vogenlenzang, 53, had called the prophet Mohammed a murderer and likened him to Saddam Hussein and Hitler.

Sharon Vogelenzang, 54, admitted suggesting that the hijab was a form of bondage but said her views were based on media references to Muslim women.

The couple also told the court Ms Tazi had insulted their religion by calling Jesus Christ a minor prophet and said the Bible was untrue. (This is obvious garbage, Jesus (pbuh) is considered not just a prophet, but a messenger AND the Messiah, no Muslim would ever use such terminology as minor prophet)

After a two-day trial, judge Richard Clancy at Liverpool Magistrates Court dismissed charges the hoteliers had used threatening, abusive or insulting words which were religiously aggravated, the Press Association reported.

He said Ms Tazi's claim she had been abused for up to an hour had not been borne out by other prosecution witnesses.

Prosecutors defended bringing the case, saying they believed there had been sufficient evidence for a realistic chance of a conviction.

"We would like to thank all those who have supported us over the last nine months - our family, our friends, our church, and Christians from all around the world and non-Christians," Ms Vogelenzang told reporters outside court after the verdict.

"As Christmas approaches we wish everybody peace and goodwill."

The Islamic Human Rights Commission, which had supported Ms Tazi, said it was shocked by the judge's decision.

"Mr and Mrs Vogelenzang acted out of hatred, which is a reflection of the anti-Muslim sentiment in popular discourse," said IHRC chairman Massoud Shadjareh.

"This acquittal indicates that such hatred has become acceptable. The verdict sets a bad precedent as Muslims will further lose faith in the system."

Source: ABC
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Reply #31 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 9:30am
 
Sounds like a perfect decision from a secular court, which responded to the claim that this woman believed she should be accorded special priviliges and treatment, because of her religious beliefs, to which the court said, NO.

Great to see, and I hope we see a lot more of it.

Here is a little tip, if you do not want people to make fun of your beliefs, the first thing would be to try and not have funny beliefs.
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Reply #32 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 9:33am
 
Yeh and I'm sure the same decision would've been reached had someone abused a Jew.

This is nothing but the acceptance of hatred and discrimination. It's a small step towards legitimising anti-Islamic behaviour, and we know where that kind of attitude has led Europeans in the past.
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Reply #33 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 11:26am
 
lmao, yeas obviously muslims are terrified of their potential mistreatment at the hands of western democracies, because they are fleeing from these western nations in huge numbers, and settling in good muslim countries.

NO?

What?

Well excuse me, I just was informed that in fact the opposite is happening, muslims are fleeing from good muslim nations, and moving to secular western democracies in huge numbers, well who would ever have guessed.

Gee, I wonder where that leaves us, if they are willingly choosing to live in western countries with their attendant prejudices against muslims, then what were they running away from in their good muslim countries, where brotherhood abounds between good muslims who treat each other exactly like real brothers and sisters (or so I have heard some people say)?

Perhaps they are all Jihadists preparing for operations against the western demons who subjugate them, in which case I wonder if they would object to being characterised as enemy combatants, and afforded the rights one reserves for those, pretty much as we see muslims classifying all non-muslims as possessing of a collective guilt, for not converting to Islam?

Well I guess we will have to put up with muslims putting up with us western pigs, as they keep arriving in our western hellholes in ever increasing numbers.

I just wish they were committed to a one child (and one wife, lol) policy on the way in, because the irresponsible way these folk breed is not doing our culture, or the planet any good.
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Reply #34 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 12:13pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 9:33am:
Yeh and I'm sure the same decision would've been reached had someone abused a Jew.

This is nothing but the acceptance of hatred and discrimination.
It's a small step towards legitimising anti-Islamic behaviour
, and we know where that kind of attitude has led Europeans in the past.




Whereas, the legitimisation of anti-UN-ISLAMIC behaviour is already 'de rigueur' within all Sharia jurisdictions.



Dictionary,
de rigueur = = required by etiquette or current fashion.





Google,
christians oppression against muslim

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=christians+oppression+against+muslim&btn...



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Reply #35 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 12:13pm
 
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lmao, yeas obviously muslims are terrified of their potential mistreatment at the hands of western democracies, because they are fleeing from these western nations in huge numbers, and settling in good muslim countries.


Jews were still flocking into German influenced areas of Europe even after the holocaust had begun... Doesn't mean much.
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Reply #36 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 12:21pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 12:13pm:
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lmao, yeas obviously muslims are terrified of their potential mistreatment at the hands of western democracies, because they are fleeing from these western nations in huge numbers, and settling in good muslim countries.


Jews were still flocking into German influenced areas of Europe even after the holocaust had begun... Doesn't mean much.



Without the jews your life would be meaningless.
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Reply #37 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 12:47pm
 
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Jews were still flocking into German influenced areas of Europe even after the holocaust had begun... Doesn't mean much.


Are you sure about that?

Where were they flocking to nazi europe from pray tell?

What holocaust?

I was not sure muslims believed in the holocaust?

Speaking of stuff people do not believe in, do muslims have a position on santa claus?

Is having reindeer statues and christmas tree lights looked upon as idol worshipping for instance?
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Reply #38 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 3:04pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 9:33am:
Yeh and I'm sure the same decision would've been reached had someone abused a Jew.

This is nothing but the acceptance of hatred and discrimination. It's a small step towards legitimising anti-Islamic behaviour, and we know where that kind of attitude has led Europeans in the past.



Criticising Islam is not anti-Islamic behaviour. Not in a liberal democracy. Just because you would stone them does not mean they do not have the right to free speech in their own country.

They have not kidnapped or beheaded anyone. Not something you can say about Muslims, on a daily basis. Muslims engage in violent 'anti-absolutely everybody' behaviour every day.
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Reply #39 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 8:57pm
 

anti-islamic behaviour ????
should be more of it, they warrent it.

the intolerant bloodthirsty isolationist extremists who follow a kiddie fiddler .
who the bugger wants that ?
Not europe, england or aussie

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Reply #40 - Mar 3rd, 2026 at 10:50pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 8:57pm:
anti-islamic behaviour ????
should be more of it, they warrent it.

the intolerant bloodthirsty isolationist extremists who follow a kiddie fiddler .
who the bugger wants that ?
Not europe, england or aussie



Sprinty hashad a massive Pauline turn for the worse since then....


Anyway, here is an American convert:


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He LOOKS like someone who'd convert to Islam.  The Houston native used the alias Abu Mohammad al-Ameriki.
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Reply #41 - Mar 3rd, 2026 at 10:57pm
 
Another non-swedish shooter:


The shooter involved in the Austin mass shooting on Sixth Street has been identified by Austin police as 53-year-old Ndiaga Diagne. Multiple U.S. officials told CBS News he was a naturalized American citizen born in Senegal. The gunman, who was shot and killed by police, was wearing a sweatshirt that said "Property of Allah" during the attack.

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Motive for the shooting is unclear....   Cheesy Cheesy
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