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abu_rashid

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Reply #30 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 4:45pm

Well it wasn't really in reponse to your original post, it was in response to the tangent that mozzaok formed out of your original theory:

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Surely they just started in the desert, then expanded to wherever they could get the most booty?
They did raid into central africa to take slaves, but as they were not big on actually developing areas as anything but trade routes to tax, because they obviously preferred the more piratical option of just taking the wealth that others had already made.
Therefore it seems logical that they would just attack and loot existing kingdoms.

Perhaps it should've been split off to a seperate thread.

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Reply #31 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 5:01pm

freediver wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 4:41pm:

Actually that's not the original issue I raised. I said nothing about Islam causing deserts. I think the issue of Muslim goat herders stripping the countryside dry, and the chopping down of all the forests, was raised on another thread.

Over-grazing, deforestation, introduction of destructive animals into the ecosystem, extinction of native animals by deliberate eradication... name a colonising power that has not done these things.

Over-grazing, deforestation, introduction of destructive animals into the ecosystem, extinction of native animals by deliberate eradication... name a third world country that would not do these things if the price from corporations and foreign governments is right.

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Reply #32 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 6:00pm

helian,

We're talking about Muslims here. It's permitted for others, but I don't know about the sub-human Muslims.

Also the fact that Arabia and other parts of the middle east were described as desert long before the rise of the Islamic Caliphate should've made fd realise that argument was a load of bollocks. anyway his original argument was that Muslims didn't necessarily make the desert (That was Yadda's tangent) but that we selectively only colonised desert regions, because of our cleanliness rituals..

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52027 At my desk.	Re: Islam and deserts Reply #33 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 6:05pm Quote: Also the fact that Arabia and other parts of the middle east were described as desert long before the rise of the Islamic Caliphate should've made fd realise that argument was a load of bollocks. Why would you say this, then go on to acknowledge that it is wrong?
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Islam and deserts Reply #34 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 6:14pm ??
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52027 At my desk.	Re: Islam and deserts Reply #35 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 6:17pm Which argument should I have realised was a load of bollocks?
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Islam and deserts Reply #36 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 7:18pm The one of Yadda's that you latched onto about Muslims causing the desertification of the Middle east.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52027 At my desk.	Re: Islam and deserts Reply #37 - Feb 17^th, 2009 at 2:27pm By 'latching on', do you mean how I contradicted his argument?
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