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23 proofs of Israel's defeat in the 23-day war
Feb 11th, 2009 at 1:42am
 
23 proofs of Israel's defeat in the 23-day war

Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:45:27 GMT


Israel began its Operation Cast Lead against Hamas in the Gaza Strip on December 27, 2008, an almost three-week long bloodbath which killed or wounded thousands of civilians.

Taking into consideration the lessons the regime learned from its defeat in the summer 2006 war against the Lebanese Hezbollah, Tel Aviv avoided setting out any specific objectives for its military operation in a bid to enable it to claim victory after the conflict ended.

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People rally in support of Hamas in Gaza after the war.


The Israeli military initially presumed that it could settle its old score with Hamas and crush the movement in a matter of days. Relying on the support of some Arab states which viewed Hamas's defeat as a blow to Iran, the regime, therefore, took the opportunity provided by the transitional period in the White House and escalated its bombing campaign into a full-blown ground offensive to kill Hamas leaders once and for all.

The plan, however, blew up in the face of its masterminds; everything spiraled out of control and the Israeli Army found itself stuck in a quagmire. Subsequently, the leaders of the Kadima Party who were on the brink of political bankruptcy and had resorted to the plan to save themselves ahead of the general elections, had to hastily find a way to clean up the mess.

They unilaterally declared a truce to break the deadlock while disguising their military failure as a humanitarian act.

However, Israeli military and political officials interestingly are still boasting about a decisive victory over Hamas. The reality on the ground proves the opposite; it indicates a defeat more humiliating than what the regime suffered in the 33-day war.

Israel was ,without doubt, the loser because:

1- From the military perspective, "the most powerful" army in the Middle East which faced only a militia group hardly advanced into the Gaza Strip's urban areas. It faced fierce resistance and realized that the price of any military victory would be too high.

2- At the beginning of the operation, Israel announced that the operation was aimed at preventing rocket attacks by Hamas and other Palestinian groups against Israeli towns. Palestinians, however, continued striking Israeli targets, even in the last hours of the war.

3- Hamas extended the range of its rockets and managed to hit targets as far away as 60 kilometers from the Gaza Strip. In fact, the Israeli operation helped Hamas boost its military might.

4- In the course of killing civilians, the Israeli regime set up a factory for producing living time bombs which will jeopardize the security situation for Israel. Civilian casualties in any conflict always radicalize members of bereaved families. Following the massacre of civilians in Gaza, it is more likely that those Palestinians who adopted a nonviolent approach to resist the Israeli occupation, will now turn to military tactics. Keep in mind that many of them have noting to lose.

5- Israel hastily signed an agreement with the US-a third party which was not directly involved in the war-to prevent "the arm smuggling" into the Gaza Strip. The deal envisaged measures to prevent Hamas from rearming, going so far as to for example seek US assistance in policing sea routes to Gaza and providing Egypt with the equipment to destroy smuggling tunnels along its border with the coastal sliver. This was however nothing but a propaganda tactic to persuade public opinion that the war had had some achievements. Shin Bet's announcement that Hamas will be able to rearm within a few months supports this notion. The Israeli media has also revealed that Washington has given no guarantees to Tel Aviv that Hamas would not be rearmed.

6- Hamas has vowed to restore its arsenals, dealing a blow to Israeli officials who claim that the movement has been "punished" and it knows that it cannot continue its armed campaign against Israel.

7- No high-ranking Hamas leader, except Said Siyam, was killed in the Israeli operation. In fact, it is estimated that out of more than thousands of victims of the Israeli offensive, only 95 people were Hamas members and most of them were killed on the first day of the attack when Hamas was caught off guard due to alleged betrayal of some Arab states.

8- Israel's defeat by a small group has shattered the image of an invincible army that overpowered the army of several Arab nations in 1967. It would not be surprising if Israel's arch foes were encouraged to settle their old score with the regime after its recent defeat. No matter what you have in your arsenals, you are considered the loser if you have been defeated in your enemy's mind. Israel seems to have entered the spiral of decline.

9- From the political perspective, Israel's situation is not any better than the one in the military arena. For the first time, two Israeli ambassadors were expelled, a big diplomatic humiliation for Tel Aviv.

10- The indiscriminate killing of civilians including women and children drew international condemnation to the point that the US, which always vetoes UN Security Council resolutions against Israel, was neutralized and gave in to mounting international pressure when the council voted on a binding resolution calling for an immediate ceasefire.

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Reply #1 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 1:43am
 

11- Israel's strategy of decreasing Hamas's popularity through putting pressure on the Gazans has obviously backfired. The Islamic movement emerged more popular than ever before after the war, because any group or person who deals a blow to Israel will be praised as a hero in the eyes of Arab nations. We witnessed the phenomenon during the 33-day war which made Seyyed Hassan Nasrallah the most popular Arab leader in the Islamic world.

12- Following the Gaza war, Mahmoud Abbas's political life came to an end. Now, Abbas who was reportedly preparing himself for returning to Gaza after the Hamas government was toppled, has to desperately beg to political brokers to find a place for him in the political future of Palestine. If Abbas loses in the Palestinian Authority general elections - a strong possibility given the situation after the Gaza war- Israel will lose its partner for peace talks.

13- Kadima's hopes for victory in the upcoming elections have been dashed. In other words, right-wing parties like the Likud and people like Israel Beitenu's and Shas's hawks will come to power, fanatics who do not even believe in peace. Israel should brace itself for days during which there would be no hope for a political solution to the current conflict.

14- The Gaza war managed another sort of uncalled for achievement for Israel: it united all Muslims and anti-Israeli parties across the world! The world has never witnessed such massive anti-Israeli rallies.

15- Hamas has set a good example for others. A small group managed to defeat the most powerful army in the Middle East. It would not be surprising if someday, we see Israel struggling to survive in a battle with a host of small or big groups and organizations which adopt military resistance as their approach.

16- The Israelis have realized that their leaders are unable to protect them; there is no safe place inside the occupied territories. It means that Israel's worst nightmare is coming true: a dramatic rise in the rate of negative immigration followed by major demographical impacts. It could shake the foundation of the Israeli regime through changing the Jewish people to a minority group in occupied Palestine. The apprehensions about this issue have so far prompted the regime to deny Palestinian refugees the right to return to their land.

17- After the war, the world is recognizing Hamas as a major player whose role can no longer be ignored and it cannot be excluded from any political process in the Middle East.

18- Prime Minister Ismail Haniya called the war "Forqan", a Quranic word meaning what separates good and evil. The outcome of the war weakened those Arab states who had adopted a pro-Israeli stance. On the other hand, it also highlighted the significance of the role of pro-resistance countries including Iran and Syria. Therefore, the balance of power has changed with regards to Israel's interests.

19- Kadima leaders made a fool of themselves and showed that they lack the qualifications required to lead the regime. Kadima, which was set up by former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to end the regime's political deadlock, committed a political suicide by attacking Gaza.

20- The war also weakened the political base of those leaders of Islamic countries who are close to Israel. They have to face their people. The process has already started as we have witnessed demonstrations in some countries in which political or social protests are rare.

21- Despite nonstop bombing of the Gaza Strip by unconventional weapons, Gazans kept their high morale, a fact reported by Western journalists. There were no long queues of people at border crossings wanting to flee to a safe place. Inside Israeli towns, scores of people were treated for "shock" everyday. In other words, Israel has also lost the psychological war.

22- The war unfortunately fueled anti-Semitic sentiments across the world. Although attacks on Jews or their property under any pretext are certainly condemned, the fact indicates that Israel, despite paying lip service to the world Jewry, never considers the interests of the Jewish. Tel Aviv even turned down a request by 11 prominent leaders of the British Jewish community who asked the regime to stop its offensive for the sake of their security.

23- There are and will be groups which will open legal cases against Israel in international courts for its war crimes in Gaza. If Hamas had been destroyed, Israeli leaders might have been able to claim that it had been worth paying such a heavy price. But without achieving anything , how can they justify their acts which have drawn a wave of international condemnation?

The Gaza war has certainly changed the status quo against Israel. History seems to repeat itself; the situation is the same as that of the days after the end of the 33-Day War except for one thing: this time, the regime has no excuse to justify its defeat; there was no inexperienced defense minister leading the war.

The Gaza war dealt the last blow to the Israeli regime and its end result is the start of a battle within the regime which will put its very existence at risk.

Those who make a mistake once may be considered as inexperienced but those who repeat their mistakes are certainly judged as being "incompetent and insane". Shall we expect another Winograd report?
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Reply #2 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 9:49am
 
And Number 24.

Job Creation.

They created work for about 70,000 more heavenly virgins.

Seriously, the palestinians are just lucky that it was a jewish country, and not an Islamic regime they were fighting.

After already losing more than once, any aggression displayed against the victor, would be met with absolutely no mercy, they would have massacred them all, as Allah directs should be done in retaliation to acts of treachery.

Lucky the Israelis do not employ Islamic methodology, in matters of war.
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Reply #3 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 9:54am
 
Such logic is comparable to....

"Last night i stood on a cockroach to kill it.
But afterwards, the [squished] cockroach stench in the room was overpowering.
So i guess i didn't really get rid of the damned cockroach after all."





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Re: 23 proofs of Israel's defeat in the 23-day war
Reply #4 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 10:49am
 
mozzaok wrote on Feb 11th, 2009 at 9:49am:
And Number 24.

Job Creation.

They created work for about 70,000 more heavenly virgins.

Seriously, the palestinians are just lucky that it was a jewish country, and not an Islamic regime they were fighting.

After already losing more than once, any aggression displayed against the victor, would be met with absolutely no mercy, they would have massacred them all, as Allah directs should be done in retaliation to acts of treachery.

Lucky the Israelis do not employ Islamic methodology, in matters of war.


You consider the Palestinians lucky???

What a pathetic thing to say.
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Re: 23 proofs of Israel's defeat in the 23-day war
Reply #5 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 10:50am
 
Yadda wrote on Feb 11th, 2009 at 9:54am:
Such logic is comparable to....

"Last night i stood on a cockroach to kill it.
But afterwards, the [squished] cockroach stench in the room was overpowering.
So i guess i didn't really get rid of the damned cockroach after all."








Are you the cockroach?
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Reply #6 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 10:54am
 
It's weird the sort of mental gymnastics that Muslims will go through to claim a victory from the death of 1300 people. It reminds of that monty python (I think) skit where the knight progressively chops of the limbs of an assailant, but the asailant keeps attacking and claiming victory. Is it really more important for Muslims to claim some kind of victory out of this than to face the reality of the situation and work towards peace? War is bad enough when you are the one kicking arse.
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Reply #7 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 9:33pm
 

fd, do you think civilian deaths are counted towards victory?

Does that mean the Nazis won WWII because of how many civilians they murdered?
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Reply #8 - Feb 12th, 2009 at 9:16am
 
Lestat wrote on Feb 11th, 2009 at 10:49am:
mozzaok wrote on Feb 11th, 2009 at 9:49am:
And Number 24.

Job Creation.

They created work for about 70,000 more heavenly virgins.

Seriously, the palestinians are just lucky that it was a jewish country, and not an Islamic regime they were fighting.

After already losing more than once, any aggression displayed against the victor, would be met with absolutely no mercy, they would have massacred them all, as Allah directs should be done in retaliation to acts of treachery.

Lucky the Israelis do not employ Islamic methodology, in matters of war.


You consider the Palestinians lucky???

What a pathetic thing to say.


Lucky jammy bastards, for the reasosn mozzaok gives. The jews are lucky to have the arabs for enemies but the arabs are also lucky. If it were the germans, say, or the russians, circa 1942 versus the arabs, it would have been good night in two weeks flat for the palestinians.

Counting the recent gazan war as a palestinian victory is an excellent example of the mass psychosis and utter madness of all who believe it. They are unmoored from reality.

The definition of madness is the inability to distinguish, within their own head, between rational thought and fantasy. And this is a textbook case, has been for decades.



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Reply #9 - Feb 12th, 2009 at 10:41am
 
Soren wrote on Feb 12th, 2009 at 9:16am:
......Counting the recent gazan war as a palestinian victory is an excellent example of the mass psychosis and utter madness of all who believe it. They are unmoored from reality.




Adherents to ISLAM truly are unhinged.

In another example of this condition of denial, muslims claim the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem never existed.


".....JERUSALEM – The Jewish Temples never existed, the Western Wall really was a tying post for Muhammad's horse.........The Palestinian cleric denied the validity of dozens of digs verified by experts worldwide revealing Jewish artifacts from the First and Second Temples throughout Jerusalem, including on the Temple Mount itself; excavations revealing Jewish homes and a synagogue in a site in Jerusalem called the City of David; or even the recent discovery of a Second Temple Jewish city in the vicinity of Jerusalem."


"Exploring ISLAMIC 'mindsnap' "
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1227051349/0#0



As per usual, if reality conflicts with ISLAMIC 'reason', and ISLAMIC 'facts', it is best just to wipe the slate.

If possible remove the offending reality [if not possible, just deny it],
.......and get on with the Jihad.
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Reply #10 - Feb 12th, 2009 at 5:38pm
 
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fd, do you think civilian deaths are counted towards victory?


No. That's why I think Hamas' claim of victory is so absurd. They were completely impotent against the Israelis. They confused hiding under the bed with a great victory. Likeiwse, confusing defeat with not checking under every bed just smacks of psychological desperation. Victory or defeat never came into it. The Palestinians were crushed before it began. The rockets they were launching were not an effective assault from a military perspective, all they did was piss the Israelis off. The Israelis came and went as they pleased. Hamas mislead the people of Palestine into thinking they could take on Israel and get something out of it. Now they have to mislead the people into thinking they got something out of it. It's hard to feel sorry for people while they make these psychotic claims of victory.
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