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Virginity: The Old-Fashioned Way
Jan 31st, 2009 at 2:51pm
 
Virginity: The Old-Fashioned Way

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http://cornellsun.com/section/opinion/content/2009/01/27/virginity-old-fashioned-way

In the ultimate conflation of the virgin-whore dichotomy, a 22-year-old Sacramento State grad named Natalie Dylan has put her virginity up for auction. The transaction is taking place through a legal brothel in Nevada, which advertises Dylan’s virginity as a “priceless and rare commodity.” And by “priceless” they actually just mean expensive — the highest bid is reported at $3.8 million. Dylan was first publicized on the Howard Stern Show, and the story has since been picked up by CNN and other major news outlets.

The response indicates that virginity is distinctly captivating to both bidders and bystanders. Dylan cites her BA in Women’s Studies as her inspiration. Since she chose to use her feminist wisdom this way, I wonder if many women of my generation might be missing the point.

In a recent blog post, Dylan explained the convoluted line of reasoning that led her to make this offer. Since virgins used to be married off in exchange for dowries in “early Europe,” she says, the logical step toward empowerment is that virgins pimp themselves out in the 21st century. She posits that this might be the beginning of a new trend, and thinks that selling her virginity follows feminism in that it earns money, which in turn equals power. Never mind that her view of virgin history is narrow and simplistic, not to mention a tad outdated as an application to today’s world. What is really sad about this is that instead of choosing to explode the idealization of female virginity as a vestige of a patriarchal society, Dylan takes the opportunistic road. She would rather perpetuate it with a get-rich-quick scheme than redefine virginity on her own terms.

Dylan is not the only one profiting from virginity. Plenty of people already profit from the idealization of virginity — selling purity rings and other chastity memorabilia, along with a message to abstain from sex in the name of God. One website even sells “Virginity Vouchers” so people can literally be card-carrying virgins for the low price of 75 cents! The general idea is that women’s virginity is a sacred gift, and men’s virginity is, well, important too, we guess. Those who believe in a Virgin Mother (read: a virgin non-virgin) are now selling the same goods as a virgin prostitute — granted, in very different ways. Dylan is selling virginity in the form of an experience, through prostitution, and abstinence groups are selling it as an ideal, by promoting virginity as a sacred gift. But putting monetary value and ideological regulations on an intimate interaction strips it of authenticity. Virginity should not be quality-controlled.

But I’m getting ahead of myself. I cannot talk about a virginity industry without pointing out the horror of such a phrase. Something is wrong when virginity — and sex — are being sold, especially when a gender divide defines who is buying and who is selling. The fact that specifically women’s virginity has been commodified is a red flag in our supposedly post-feminist society. Where are the male virgins? To answer my question, I looked on craigslist. I got the idea from Dylan herself, who hinted that the beginnings of a virginity market could be found there. And sure enough, plenty of virgins advertise in the personals. But they are all men who are trying desperately to give away their, uh, maidenhood. They might just as well have put their virginity in the Free Stuff section. And so we have a gender quandary: male virginity is either worthless or unmarketable, while female virginity can make as much as $3.8 million.

“Marketable” is the operative word here. Women’s virginity is evidently susceptible to mystification, what you might call “other”-ing. This makes it easier to peddle it, but also ignores the woman’s point of view on sexuality and desire. A man who pays to have sex with a virgin is responding to his own ideal of Virginity, which has nothing to do with the woman herself (and likely nothing to do with any real woman at all). The hymen, in fact, is acknowledged by doctors to be so variable from woman to woman that it provides no indication of virginity. It is more real in the collective mind than on the body. Notice there has never been a phantom body part that “proves” male virginity. To buy and sell virginity means subscribing to some mythical definition of virginity loss, and there is a much stronger one for women than for men.

Like all of us children of the women’s liberation movement, Dylan benefits from living in a society that is more conscious of women’s rights than before. Unlike our baby-boomer mothers, we grow up imagining our lives as uninhibited by sex discrimination. But as much work as past generations have done to remove gender barriers, our generation has a responsibility to continue the legacy of change that gave us freedom through birth control, abortion rights and truer perceptions of women and gender. With the last presidential election, we may have narrowly escaped the revocation of our right to an abortion. It is a right that drastically impacts our freedom to make decisions about sex. Virginity loss is incidental to sexuality as a whole, just as the hymen is incidental to the formation of a woman’s body. Each is made important only because of the social value a
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Reply #1 - Jan 31st, 2009 at 3:42pm
 
Personally I think it's sad, but both sides of the bargain will be  both exploiter and exploited.

Both sides of the bargain will also be short changed. Sex without passion and love is a cheap experience. At least the 'vendor' will end up financially better off. The buyer may get a short lived 'expensive thrill'.   - but $3.8 million dollars worth? I doubt it.  The best things in life are free, and when you turn them into commodities, they go from vital and impassioned to stale very quickly.
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Reply #2 - Jan 31st, 2009 at 5:17pm
 
The bloke sounds like an idiot.  She might not even be a virgin and perhaps has even had some minor surgery - or there's other little tricks she could use.

For someone to pay that much, he would not only have to be mentally bereft, but physically disgusting, although I suppose it's probably worth putting up with a couple of hours revulsion for $3.8 million.

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Reply #3 - Jan 31st, 2009 at 7:33pm
 
mantra wrote on Jan 31st, 2009 at 5:17pm:
The bloke sounds like an idiot.  She might not even be a virgin and perhaps has even had some minor surgery - or there's other little tricks she could use.

For someone to pay that much, he would not only have to be mentally bereft, but physically disgusting, although I suppose it's probably worth putting up with a couple of hours revulsion for $3.8 million.



Yes the trick would be to get legless mantra..who would notice then how revolting he was..?

I wonder how many women would consider revirginising  for 3.8 million?

How would a man even tell anyway ?..actual virginity is very much like a verb like.. its a "doing thing"..riding horses. bikes etc...how would man know ?

A ride on a horse may have just robbed him of the "prize"...
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Reply #4 - Feb 1st, 2009 at 8:33am
 
Could someone point to me where the article says the guy is revolting or an idiot  or anything about him?
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Reply #5 - Feb 1st, 2009 at 9:47am
 
$3.8m?  Shocked
I think he'll be majorly disappointed.
I hope he'll get to slap the filthy whore around a bit for that price. Or at least give it to her where the sun don't shine.
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Reply #6 - Feb 1st, 2009 at 11:34am
 
Grendel wrote on Feb 1st, 2009 at 8:33am:
Could someone point to me where the article says the guy is revolting or an idiot  or anything about him?

It would be kind of just assumed.


And as for the asking price of 3.8  million..well the cost in dollars is only outweighed by the size of the mans ego.

Otherwise virginity would have no value whatsoever.

Slap her around a bit Amadd..? Only if she likes it rough...err.. foreplay?

"where the sun dont shine"... at what point/place in the human body does the sun shine?

So my question to you is...exactly what are you referring to with this statement   Wink
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Reply #7 - Feb 1st, 2009 at 1:36pm
 
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at what point/place in the human body does the sun shine?


Everybody knows that this means the earhole.

Yes the guy sounds like an idiot and yes I think she deserves to be slapped around by every man she ever meets. - with a very large toothbrush.






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Reply #8 - Feb 1st, 2009 at 10:46pm
 
So we don't know that he's ugly or an idiot...  except for the fact he's willing to pay a lot of money for sex with a virgin.

He might have soooooo  much money it doesn't matter to him.

Would you have sex with him for $3.8 mill Ogly?

He'd probably get more for his money not having a virgin.
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Reply #9 - Feb 1st, 2009 at 10:54pm
 

Yes, whatever the price, the proposition is the same.

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Reply #10 - Feb 2nd, 2009 at 11:31am
 
Grendel wrote on Feb 1st, 2009 at 10:46pm:
Would you have sex with him for $3.8 mill Ogly?


Would you?.... is more to the point..I think I know the answer..
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Reply #11 - Feb 2nd, 2009 at 5:21pm
 
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I'm actually impressed someone came up with this marketing ploy and is making so much more money at once then any "proffessional" whore...

What amazes me is we live in this post-femmenist world, and yet we still assume there's something mystical about virginity. Especially in a woman. If this had been a guy, noone would've cared. But since it was a girl, suddenly everyone thought this was news worthy. It isn't. Some whore cameup with a good idea, and capitalized on it. Good for her. She's a smart whore exploting a bunch of dumb men willing to pay good money to take virginity that she probably doesn't have..

She's not even that pretty. Ofcourse I'm being unfair as since I've seen Julz, no mortal woman could hope to compare!

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Reply #12 - Feb 2nd, 2009 at 5:40pm
 
Have you figured out what country your girlfriend is in yet Jim?
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Reply #13 - Feb 2nd, 2009 at 5:55pm
 
They would have to be in the same country and together obviously FD because they stood next to a burned down house with a can full of gas and a hand full of matches and they weren't caught.
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and for those of us with  Downs Syndrome..she's the one on the left hey Jim?  Wink

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They would have to be in the same country and together obviously FD because they stood next to a burned down house with a can full of gas and a hand full of matches and they weren't caught.


Grin Grin Grin

very naughty, but your on fire today guys.
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