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Muslims have a lot to learn from Zionists
Jan 28th, 2009 at 9:42pm  
Of course they do.
As abu pointed out a jew can criticise Judaism without being subject to murderous fatwa or being banned from stating his/her point of view like muslim moderators do here.

abu, get out of your dark ages attitudes, if you can not argue against me don't ban me otherwise you make your religion look more idiotic.
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Re: Muslims have a lot to learn from Zionists
Reply #1 - Jan 28th, 2009 at 10:03pm  
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As abu pointed out a jew can criticise Judaism without being subject to murderous fatwa or being banned from stating his/her point of view like muslim moderators do here.


Is that so?

So this Israeli historian just imagined his house being bombed by fellow Jews did he? And he didn't even criticise Judaism, he merely took a more objective  view of history, by looking at both sides of the conflict...

And likewise Mordechai Levy, the head of the JDO in the USA didn't open fire with a machine gun in a NY street on the head of the JDL, just because they had disagreements about how they should go about bombing Arab American activists for Palestine?

And of course Yitzak Rabin wasn't really assassinated by a fellow Jew for merely talking the Palestinians, was he? Did he die of old age in a secret hospital? Note that no Palestinians assassinated Yasser Arafat for doing the same.
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abu_rashid wrote on Jan 28th, 2009 at 10:03pm:
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As abu pointed out a jew can criticise Judaism without being subject to murderous fatwa or being banned from stating his/her point of view like muslim moderators do here.


Is that so?

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Yes it is and you proved it yourself by banning me from your pet islamist forum because you have no rational answer to my arguments.
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Re: Muslims have a lot to learn from Zionists
Reply #3 - Jan 28th, 2009 at 10:06pm  
Abu - you banned me some time ago from the islam forum you were freely granted .

Do you think that reflects badly on you and on muslims in the main and on islam?
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Reply #4 - Jan 28th, 2009 at 10:11pm  
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 28th, 2009 at 10:06pm:
Abu - you banned me some time ago from the islam forum you were freely granted .

Do you think that reflects badly on you and on muslims in the main and on islam?



abu is muslim and he proved by his cowardly banning of opposition that muslims like him are afraid of truth.
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Re: Muslims have a lot to learn from Zionists
Reply #5 - Jan 28th, 2009 at 10:11pm  
guys please keep comments on topic. make another thread in relationships if you want to discuss your bans or problems with mods
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Reply #6 - Jan 28th, 2009 at 10:17pm  

awww that's what this is all about is it.. wanna cry about being banned? Bad luck, toughen up, and learn some respect. When you learn how to be respectful to Islam and in general, then you're both free to return.
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Reply #7 - Jan 28th, 2009 at 10:23pm  
abu_rashid wrote on Jan 28th, 2009 at 10:17pm:
awww that's what this is all about is it.. wanna cry about being banned? Bad luck, toughen up, and learn some respect. When you learn how to be respectful to Islam and in general, then you're both free to return.



No. It is about how mohammedans are scared of truth and you proved it yourself by not being able to have rational argument and opting for cowardly banning an opposition.

You, abu, proved by your action that islam is inferior ideology. Thank you for that.
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Re: Muslims have a lot to learn from Zionists
Reply #8 - Jan 28th, 2009 at 11:36pm  

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It's quite ironic that most of the supporters of Zionism here are also anti-immigration...


Perhaps it's time for you to give your definition of Zionism, seeing as you throw the term around so freely. Is anyone who supports Israel's right to exist a Zionist?


Funny that the intellectual coward abu is talking about 'anti-immigration" while defending the rights of hamass "anti-immigration" false stance by using violence far beyond few young ozzies did on the Saturday. But what else can you expect from a cowardly biased muslim moderator?
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Reply #9 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 12:20am  
Don't worry tallow...  sooner or later it'll just be him he'll have banned, lied,  libelledor threatened everyone else, and no one will be bothered.  that's why i don't post there anymore.

He's already admitted he's not a man (his goad to fd) by refusing to apologise and admit he lied.
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Reply #10 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 9:46am  
Yes, muslims have a lot to learn from zionists.
First they should stop to be stupid and believe that the book of lies koran is god's truth.
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Re: Muslims have a lot to learn from Zionists
Reply #11 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 9:48am  
I think they are both as bad as each other.
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Reply #12 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 10:02am  
Swathe wrote on Jan 29th, 2009 at 9:48am:
I think they are both as bad as each other.


No, zionists don't use kids as suicide bombers. That is another thing that recalcitrant muslims need to learn not to teach children to dress in suicide belts.
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Re: Muslims have a lot to learn from Zionists
Reply #13 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 10:16pm  
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Anyone who supports the existence of the Zionist entity, would be a supporter of Zionism... Are you having trouble grasping the difference between a Zionist and a supporter of Zionism? A Zionist is actively engaged in carrying out the Zionist objectives of transferring the Arabs out of Palestine and settling it as a Jewish-only state (This includes many American Christians, not just Jews). A Zionist supporter on the other hand are people who defend and protect the Zionists and try to justify their actions to the world.


By the same token any one who denies right of Israel to exist are supporters of hamass terrorist mongrels and should be dealt with accordingly and that includes all muslims who pretend to be Australians while hating our democracy and freedom of speech.
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Re: Muslims have a lot to learn from Zionists
Reply #14 - Jan 29th, 2009 at 10:42pm  
abu_rashid wrote on Jan 28th, 2009 at 10:17pm:
When you learn how to be respectful to Islam



Why do non-muslims need to 'respect' islam? Muslims ddon't seem to respect the various freedoms of thee west, of conscience and press and speech in particular? On what ground can Islam demand respect when it gives none, nay, actively intimidates and threatens?
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Reply #15 - Feb 1st, 2009 at 11:35pm  
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Nowhere have  I stated such people were Zionists. I said they'd be "supporters of Zionism". Since Israel only existed through transferring Arabs out of their villages and replacing them with Jews, then supporting the right of Israel to exist means supporting Zionism, does it not?


Arabs transferred themselves from Arabia to Palestine. Why don't they go back to their historical villages instead of making asses of themselves?
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Reply #16 - Feb 3rd, 2009 at 9:17pm  
"What it changes is the facade that your article had any credibility as a truthful and accurate source. Whilst you guys can't even get basic historical facts right, how can anyone have any faith in the idea you'd be telling the truth?" (c) abu

The same abu who stated Quote:
The Jews had been completely expelled from Palestine over 600 years before the Muslims arrived by the Romans.


to which I replied with historical facts
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so you talking about period from 34ce to 634ce

Let' examine it.

First Jewish-Roman War (66-73ce). So there was Jewish war but no Jews? Sounds ridiculous.

Jewish revolt of Bar Kokhba (132–135ce) So there was Jewish revolt but no Jews? Sounds ridiculous.

Jewish revolt against Byzantine rule (In 352ce). So there was Jewish revolt but no Jews? Sounds ridiculous.

In about 450ce, the Jerusalem Talmud is completed. So who had written the Jerusalem Talmud if there were no Jews. Sounds ridiculous.

In 613ce, another Jewish revolt against the Byzantine Empire.  So there was again Jewish revolt but no Jews. Sounds ridiculous.

Professor Moshe Gil documents that at the time of the Arab conquest in 7th century ce, the majority of the population was Jewish. So the majority of the population was Jewish but no Jews. Sounds ridiculous.

As anybody can see these dated historical facts make your claim "The Jews had been completely expelled from Palestine over 600 years before the Muslims arrived" sounds ridiculous.

Now, I don't care if you make ridiculous statements like that out of your great religious ignorance or it is just deliberate lying. The point is your statements are not only ridiculous but also historically wrong.


Of course abu could not handle the truth and soon after that abu banned me from his pet islam forum.


Is it just abu or is it his religion that cant handle the truth?
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Reply #17 - Feb 3rd, 2009 at 9:33pm  
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Is that your idea of a joke Abu?

So the whole Islamist jihad, and worldwide terror networks of Islam, is all down to "a few bad eggs".

Try getting your head off the ground long enough to look around, before these nutjobs hijacked Islam, nobody had a problem with muslims.


I don't think he is joking. I never heard him strongly condemn muslim terrorists, his understanding of islam forbids him to do that. Unfortunately that is the case with too many muslims as well.
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Re: Muslims have a lot to learn from Zionists
Reply #18 - Feb 3rd, 2009 at 9:42pm  
tallowood wrote on Feb 3rd, 2009 at 9:33pm:
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Is that your idea of a joke Abu?

So the whole Islamist jihad, and worldwide terror networks of Islam, is all down to "a few bad eggs".

Try getting your head off the ground long enough to look around, before these nutjobs hijacked Islam, nobody had a problem with muslims.


I don't think he is joking. I never heard him strongly condemn muslim terrorists, his understanding of islam forbids him to do that. Unfortunately that is the case with too many muslims as well.


Haven't you figured it out yet...no one cares what you think.

Cheesy:D:D
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Reply #19 - Feb 3rd, 2009 at 9:48pm  
rotflmao...

gee tallow... I guess Muslims count a "few" in their thousands
well they do exaggerate (lie) at every turn.  Cheesy
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Reply #20 - Feb 3rd, 2009 at 9:53pm  
Lestat wrote on Feb 3rd, 2009 at 9:42pm:
tallowood wrote on Feb 3rd, 2009 at 9:33pm:
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Is that your idea of a joke Abu?

So the whole Islamist jihad, and worldwide terror networks of Islam, is all down to "a few bad eggs".

Try getting your head off the ground long enough to look around, before these nutjobs hijacked Islam, nobody had a problem with muslims.


I don't think he is joking. I never heard him strongly condemn muslim terrorists, his understanding of islam forbids him to do that. Unfortunately that is the case with too many muslims as well.


Haven't you figured it out yet...no one cares what you think.

Cheesy:D:D


I figured out that abu the coward cares that I smash his lies with historical facts, that's why he banned me from his pet islam forum and is too scare to reply to me now sending little muslim doggy to bark.
Now go and find mohamed'd bone or didn't he have any?
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Reply #21 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 7:11am  
"Btw, King Abdullah was assasinated in Masjid al-Aqsa, not Qubat as-Sakhrah (Dome of the rock) as you inaccurately claimed above."

Muslims kill muslims. I'm not surprised.
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Reply #22 - Feb 7th, 2009 at 11:26pm  
"One of the other things I like is that before you pray, you have to wash your c*ck.

So the muslim cabbies at the airport go into the mens room, and put their dicks in the sink. So next time you are about to wash your hands in the mens room at Sydney Airport, remember that many stinky sweaty muslim cab drivers that find deodorant haram have washed their c*cks in that sink.

Islam - the pinnacle of civilized behaviour." (c) Calonen

Now I know why they equate their genitals to their heads.


BTW, the fact was confirmed by lestat's customary personal abuse, which he does every time when he can not present facts to disprove.
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Reply #23 - Feb 8th, 2009 at 10:16am  
Why do we have duplicate threads, like this one, on different forums?
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Reply #24 - Feb 8th, 2009 at 12:57pm  
Could be because Abu keeps banning people.
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Reply #25 - Feb 9th, 2009 at 9:31pm  
who/how many are banned from the Islam board?
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Reply #26 - Feb 9th, 2009 at 9:44pm  
Soren wrote on Feb 9th, 2009 at 9:31pm:
who/how many are banned from the Islam board?


Only abu and "alan" knows  Wink

I can speak only for myself and keep discussion going in other threads that are not under islamist moderation yet.
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Reply #27 - Feb 10th, 2009 at 9:13pm  
"Can someone (who supports Zionism), which would include you I think fd, please answer my question about whether or not you think Zionism and it's methodology for taking over other people's countries should be emulated by Muslims in Australia.

Enough of the hypocrisy and just answer! " (c) abu

Yes I can but you being an islamic moderator don't want to hear it so you banned me in you jihad of lies.
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Reply #28 - Feb 14th, 2009 at 7:35am  
"Palestinians have been in Palestine for at least 1200 years (some of them perhaps 1000-2000 more), the Dome of the rock has stood in Jerusalem for longer than both Jewish temples combined." (c) abu

Hebrews were in Palestine, proper name is Judea BTW, before arabs and Jewish temples were build way before the Dome. Just because muslims build something on top of somebody's property does not mean muslims have right to it forever.

So what is islamic claim about Australia again? Were they living here before anybody elese? Were they building mosques here before anybody else builded anything?
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Reply #29 - Feb 15th, 2009 at 5:02pm  
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Hebrews were in Palestine, proper name is Judea BTW


Arabs are descendants of Hebrews as well, so if mere descendance from Hebrews is all that gives them the right, then it equally gives the Arabs a right.

As for the name, I couldn't care less what it's name is, names are irrelevant.

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before arabs and Jewish temples were build way before the Dome.


Right, and Canaanite and Philistine temples probably existed there before them, so what? Again, the idea of being there first certainly doesn't put the Jews in front. As their own books record they weren't there first, but were just another people who slaughtered the inhabitants to take it themselves.

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Just because muslims build something on top of somebody's property does not mean muslims have right to it forever.


As has been shown to you before, the Arabs took it from the Byzantine Romans, who'd been there for a good 500 years before the Muslims came. It wasn't the property of Jews.
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Reply #30 - Feb 15th, 2009 at 6:03pm  
Lots of squirmin' going on there Tallow...  Grin
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