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Osama quotes.
Feb 13th, 2009 at 8:43pm
 
Explain and justify these doozies...

God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed -- when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the U.S. Sixth Fleet. As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me punish the unjust the same way (and) to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women.
Osama bin Laden
Admitting responsibility for attacks on US on September 11, 2001, on videotape shown on Al Jazeera, October 29, 2004

To kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque [Jerusalem] and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim.
Osama bin Laden
In Fatwa entitled Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders World Islamic Front Statement, February 28, 1998

"We are seeking to incite the (Islamic) nation to rise up to liberate its land and to (conduct) jihad (holy war) for the sake of God." -- al-Jazeera, June 1999.

"We should fully understand our religion. Fighting is a part of our religion and our Sharia [an Islamic legal code]. Those who love God and his Prophet and this religion cannot deny that. Whoever denies even a minor tenet of our religion commits the gravest sin in Islam."

"Hostility toward America is a religious duty, and we hope to be rewarded for it by God . . . . I am confident that Muslims will be able to end the legend of the so-called superpower that is America. Time Magazine

"The pieces of the bodies of infidels were flying like dust particles. If you would have seen it with your own eyes, you would have been very pleased, and your heart would have been filled with joy." -- At the wedding of his son in southern Kandahar about the 17 sailors who died suicide bombing of the USS Cole off the coast of Yemen.

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Reply #1 - Feb 13th, 2009 at 8:53pm
 
O American people, I am speaking to tell you about the ideal way to avoid another Manhattan, about war and its causes and results.
Osama bin Laden
On videotape shown on Al Jazeera, October 29, 2004

“We love death. The US loves life. That is the difference between us two.”

"The insistence of the Danish government to refrain from apologizing and its refusal to punish the criminals and take action to prevent this crime from being repeated... shows that the notions of freedom of speech have no roots, especially when it comes to Muslims.”


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Reply #2 - Feb 13th, 2009 at 9:00pm
 
Anyone who does not feel repulsed by the words of a man that openly rejoices in the act of shedding blood in god's name, must share in the contempt we feel for such evilly twisted minds.

Abu, and others of his ilk, will overlook these words, at their own peril, for even if he gave a thousand sermons which promoted brotherly love, between muslims, it would not balance out the evil sentiments he expressed in those messages calling muslims to embrace hatred and violence.

It is displays of heartless cruelty, like these, which stirs the Islamophobes to feel justified in their contempt for Islam, and Islamists< and when they are faced with mesages like that, it is easy to understand why.
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Reply #3 - Feb 13th, 2009 at 10:03pm
 
various sources, mostly Al J or direct quotes from "fatwahs" etc..

"In today's wars, there are no morals. We believe the worst thieves in the world today and the worst terrorists are the Americans. We do not have to differentiate between military or civilian. As far as we are concerned, they are all targets."

"We say our terror against America is blessed terror in order to put an end to suppression, in order for the United States to stop its support to Israel. "

"There is no dialogue except with weapons. "

"Every Muslim, from the moment they realize the distinction in their hearts, hates Americans, hates Jews and hates Christians. For as long as I can remember, I have felt tormented and at war, and have felt hatred and animosity for Americans. "

"I am the one in charge of the 19 brothers … I was responsible for entrusting the 19 brothers … with the raids."




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Reply #4 - Feb 13th, 2009 at 10:11pm
 
"We love death. The US loves life. That is the difference between us two."
Osama bin Laden, November 2001





NOT Osama.

Off topic!!!     Grin

"The Jews love life, .....they love life and we love death."
Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah

.....pssst, could he have been taking lessons from OBL?



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #5 - Feb 14th, 2009 at 5:07am
 

That's quite funny, because when Americans & Israelis kill millions of German, Japanese. Palestinian, Iraqi, Afghani, Pakistani etc. civilians, you all seem to think it's fine to just belittle and justify civilian deaths, collateral damage, "We had to, to prevent a bigger battle" etc...

When it happens to you though, you whinge and cry and carry on.

Live by the sword, die by it.

Get over it.
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Reply #6 - Feb 14th, 2009 at 8:40am
 
Well thanks Aboo you idiot...
Good to know where Muslim moderates stand.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #7 - Feb 14th, 2009 at 10:16am
 
abu, do you really believe that "Israelis kill millions of German, Japanese. Palestinian, Iraqi, Afghani, Pakistani etc."? Shocked
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Reply #8 - Feb 14th, 2009 at 7:16pm
 

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Reply #9 - Feb 14th, 2009 at 8:23pm
 
Usually what happens when a country goes to war...  Cheesy

Apart from the ignorance of Bin laden it also appears that many of his pronouncements goes against what some Muslims have been telling us Islam is about.
Why then does he have the support he does?
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Reply #10 - Feb 14th, 2009 at 11:24pm
 
"Americans & Israelis kill millions of German, Japanese. Palestinian, Iraqi, Afghani, Pakistani etc. civilians" (c) abu

I see, that is funny algebra.

But you conveniently forgot to mention hundreds of millions of civilians including muslims killed by muslims and communists  Sad
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Reply #11 - Feb 14th, 2009 at 11:52pm
 

yeh yeh whatever tallow
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Reply #12 - Feb 14th, 2009 at 11:59pm
 
The response that I was hoping to see from you, Abu, was that you agreed that OBL, is a violent jerk, and his evil pronouncements are wrong, and do not represent what decent muslims think.

It seems that you prefer to further the belief that many hold, that even 'moderate' muslims, support violent, terrorists.
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Reply #13 - Feb 15th, 2009 at 12:03am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Feb 14th, 2009 at 11:52pm:
yeh yeh whatever tallow


Got you there, abu, didn't I? Cheesy
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Reply #14 - Feb 15th, 2009 at 4:52pm
 
Mr. Rotflmao,

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Usually what happens when a country goes to war...  Cheesy


Strange you don't seem to find it so humourous when non-Muslims are the victims...

Tallow,

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Got you there, abu, didn't I?


Israel and the USA are pretty much a single entity. The USA has a 'special relationship' with Israel which  it has with no other country, that makes them almost like one. The US gives untold amounts of money, weapons and support to Israel, as she knows it is a part of her own flesh and blood. Therefore my statement was fine.

Yours on the other hand was not.

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The response that I was hoping to see from you, Abu, was that you agreed that OBL, is a violent jerk, and his evil pronouncements are wrong, and do not represent what decent muslims think.


I have no trouble denouncing the idea that civilians should be targets, something most on this board cannot do (when it comes to Muslim civilians anyway). But I will not extend that condemnation to the man himself, as it's become quite obvious there's just too much propaganda relating to him. Since it's impossible to discern the truth from the fabrication, then it's better to reserve judgement, which is certainly not an approval nor a support for the individual.

Condemning the actions themselves, which he may or may not have supported, is the important thing here. And I most certainly do that. Sadly, most on this board  fail to do even that.... So it's tthem you'd be best directing your concern towards. Since they don't even oppose the acts of killing civilians, whilst I clearly do.

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It seems that you prefer to further the belief that many hold, that even 'moderate' muslims, support violent, terrorists.


Many here hold very warped views.. most of them false about Islam. Nothing I say is going to change them, as they are based on hatred, not on logic, nor on facts.
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