Australian Politics Forum - Australia Day Disgrace

Gaybriel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1191	Re: Australia Day Disgrace Reply #135 - Jan 29^th, 2009 at 9:27pm back on topic- were there any more incidents like this across aust or was manly it? also in regrds to ON's policies being adopted by our major parties- that just goes to show how messed up the parties are
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Australia Day Disgrace Reply #136 - Jan 29^th, 2009 at 9:38pm really? Know what their policies were? no? Then you should educate yourself and read the obit as well. One thing I cannot abide is bigotry from ignorance of the facts. especially when the facts are so easy to find.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Australia Day Disgrace Reply #137 - Jan 29^th, 2009 at 9:43pm for gaybriel... http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1223572345/0
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Reply #138 - Jan 29^th, 2009 at 9:51pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2009 at 9:38pm:

really?
Know what their policies were?

no?

Then you should educate yourself and read the obit as well.

One thing I cannot abide is bigotry from ignorance of the facts. especially when the facts are so easy to find.

you haven't asked me about what policies I'm talking about- I was speaking specifically about a few adopted by the liberal party- not all of one nation's policies

for example- pauline hanson suggested that boats with 'illegal immigrants' that enter australia's waters should be towed back out into international waters. this was shot down by the libs and then later adopted by them and carried out in what was called operation relex

this not only shows up the deceitful nature of politics and tactics of the liberal party- but the policy itself is one I strongly disagree with

mainly because it's 1/ impractical 2/ endangers human life 3/ wastes money and 4/ contravenes the refugee agreements we have signed

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Reply #139 - Jan 29^th, 2009 at 9:54pm

lol

nice sidestep... but no prize.

have a read it will do you good to know the truth.

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also in regrds to ON's policies being adopted by our major parties- that just goes to show how messed up the parties are

What about the labor policies?

You could always enlighten me about the policies you are talking about.

Mostly I find they were never policies at all.

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Gaybriel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1191	Re: Australia Day Disgrace Reply #140 - Jan 29^th, 2009 at 10:00pm I've edited my above post I'm not side stepping just pointing out your assumption that Idon't know what Im talking about instead of asking me what I am talking about
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Australia Day Disgrace Reply #141 - Jan 29^th, 2009 at 10:02pm I did both... read the obit then tell me you knew all that already... I'll be very impressed. Surprised and disappointed considering your coment.
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Reply #142 - Jan 29^th, 2009 at 10:05pm

2 things.
Pauline Hanson is not One Nation.
Pauline had basically 2 political careers... one as an independent and the other in the party.
There were never any party policies that suggested boats should be towed anywhere.

Told you... mostly they were never policies.

Oh and BTW... PEOPLE SMUGGLING is not a legal activity, it is trafficking in human misery for some and criminal for others.

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Reply #143 - Jan 29^th, 2009 at 10:22pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2009 at 10:05pm:

2 things.
Pauline Hanson is not One Nation.
Pauline had basically 2 political careers... one as an independent and the other in the party.
There were never any party policies that suggested boats should be towed anywhere.

Told you... mostly they were never policies.

Oh and BTW... PEOPLE SMUGGLING is not a legal activity, it is trafficking in human misery for some and criminal for others.

I'm pretty sure she said that as a part of one nation- but I'll double check, it's entirely pssible I'm wrong

I know people smuggling is illegal

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Gaybriel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1191	Re: Australia Day Disgrace Reply #144 - Jan 29^th, 2009 at 10:23pm oh and I will read the obit and get back to you
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Australia Day Disgrace Reply #145 - Jan 29^th, 2009 at 10:28pm Hanson said lots of things not all of them correct and not everything a person says is party policy.
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Reply #146 - Feb 2^nd, 2009 at 5:24pm

Swathe wrote on Jan 29^th, 2009 at 10:49am:

Burning the flag of your own country should be considered a traitorous act. If citizens of other countries who live here burn our flag, they should be removed as they obviously do not like it here.

Imagine the uproar if I went around burning their flags. Of course, it's only white people who racially discriminate Roll Eyes

Are you kidding me? Supporting the right to burn flags is a support for the right for free expression, which is one of the foundations for this country.

I have no wish to see Australia turned into some totalitarian state, and banning the freedom of expression is one way to do it.

Also in America, the proper way to dispose of the national flag is to burn it. I think the same applies to here?

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Australia Day Disgrace Reply #147 - Feb 2^nd, 2009 at 7:01pm Freedom of expression may be pouring petrol over you and setting it alight too. but i doubt you'd agree to that.
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Blasko Junior Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 81	Re: Australia Day Disgrace Reply #148 - Feb 4^th, 2009 at 10:16am Because that's called attempted murder, you git. When freedom of expression impinges upon safety, such as death threats from clerics, then the law comes up trumps.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Australia Day Disgrace Reply #149 - Feb 4^th, 2009 at 10:21am and defiling a national emblem in the minds of the perpetrators is doing exactly that. git!
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