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Reply #45 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 10:05pm
 
http://www.slais.ubc.ca/COURSES/libr500/03-04-wt1/assignments/www/G_Abaee/histor...

The history of pornography....( they seemed to like fuller figured women in the old days)

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The arguements for censoring pornography on the Internet have many reasons.  Some of the obvious ones are:

Pornography objectifies and commodifies women.
Pornographers take away children's innocence and exploit them to the fullest.

Pornography contributes to violence against women and children.
Pornogprahy weakens the individual's sense of morality and self-respect.    
Pornography glorifies obscenity and promiscuity.    
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Reply #46 - Jan 19th, 2009 at 11:04pm
 
I still like fuller figured women this days. I consider circles more perfect then triangles and squares.

As for objectification and commodification of women I strongly disagree. Erotic art is more of a nature of worship of Trinity of Goddesses of Earth, Agriculture and Fertility.

Child pornography is different, though, and should be scoffed at.
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Reply #47 - Jan 20th, 2009 at 8:21am
 

yep, count me in for the soft curvy women.  Smiley

Child porn is illegal and is met with a jail sentence. A law I thoroughly agree with and support.
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Reply #48 - Jan 24th, 2009 at 10:43am
 
Grendel wrote on Jan 17th, 2009 at 4:38pm:
Some studies claim that it is more a release of sexual tension and therefore lessens the need for real contact hence crimes such as rape etc.



I dunno about that, rape is usually a power thing.
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Reply #49 - Jan 24th, 2009 at 2:08pm
 
Explain why rape and child abuse is so rampant in the third world, they dont have the internet and are useally more religious than us. They kill, steal, rape and torture more than anyone.
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Reply #50 - Jan 25th, 2009 at 10:10am
 
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Pornography objectifies and commodifies women.
What about the porn made by women, for women? What about gay porn? Really, this isn't an argument against the existence of porn, it's an argument against bad porn.  If porn objectifies women, then simply force the porn industry to adopt standards so it isn't objectifying women.

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Pornography glorifies obscenity and promiscuity.
So what? When did we start banning promiscuity, are we Saudi Arabia all of a sudden?

And for some reason, I can't post because it tells me I'm posting spam. So I'll just keep it short and say that the government has no place in telling us what our morality should be, what we do in the bedroom and how we do it, or what we get from the internet (except the obvious criminal stuff like child porn etc).
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Reply #51 - Jan 25th, 2009 at 10:33pm
 
There are quite a few woman getting caught doing some dodgy stuff with minors too, I do feel sorry for those exotic dancers bringing home hundreds if not thousands of dollars of tax free money, poor things and those gold diggers, poor things, ever seen a rich man with an ugly wife, not to often.
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Reply #52 - Jan 26th, 2009 at 11:19am
 
Sorry about that. The spam filter blocks posts that use the word porn (or variations of it) too much. If it really bothers you I can change the settings, but I'd rather leave it as is and let people work around it.
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Reply #53 - Jan 26th, 2009 at 12:52pm
 
For every woman that has had a negative experience about her sexuallity another one is using it to her advantage.
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Reply #54 - Jan 27th, 2009 at 4:24am
 
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Governments are supposed to be regulating this and keeping society safe..its not working.

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You honestly think for one second government cares?

I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Government is like organized crime. Only way more proffessional..

They're not there to save the world, or protect the children. Their there to make a profit, take hold of some power, and never have to worry about being told what to do by the likes of small-timers like us..

Government exists primarily for itself. And only minamaly intervenes in helping people so there isn't a fullblown revolution.. The line they walk everyday is a fine one. And that's why countries collapse all the time..

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Now that we've gotten that out of the way. There's the reason as to why the government allows it.. Porn is an industry, capitalized by independent entrepenuers and massive coporations alike. Sex is everywhere, not because "it sells itself". But because if exposed to it long enough, like anything else. We adapt, become use to it, and then it sells itself.. We would've never gotten away with distrubuting such raunchy porn fourty years ago. But those with money trained us to enjoy it so they could make more money later. It was an investment that payed off...

The reason the government allows it, is because let's face it.. A society with a poor sense of morality is easier to control then one with an excellent sense of morality. Those with morality treat everybody equal under the law, those with morality are not subject to bribery and intimidation. They're far too gone in their own ideology. That's not benneficary to government. So for their own sake, they allow this to go down. And inturn are able to control you with less effort and less worrysome consequinces. The left has this big worry of 1984. When infact 1984 is improbable. Back any animal into a corner and see what happens. It attacks you. Fear and force are not optimized tools for controlling citizens. But blissful ignorance is... We should be reading less 1984 and more A Brave New World... Every animal needs a leader. Government is your leader. You only think pedophilia is wrong because they told you it was. And they told you it was so fifty years later they can sell childporn and you're going to be crazy old reactionary grandma afraid to live in the present for still thinking it's bad. Meanwhile they'll think of something else to teach the next generation what is bad. They only bestow us with enough morality to where we think we're an upstanding society. Blissful ignorance...

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I understand the tennets of our overlords because ever sense I was a little kid I wanted to be like them. When I was asked the common childhood question of "what do you want to be when you growup?" I responded with "dictator". And defensively, they would say "don't you mean president?" and I would proudly announce. "No you dumb bitch, I mean dictator. I want to control what other people think, do, say, act on. Because I am more mature and responsible then they are. My thoughts are more virtous, and I have a right to take that which they abuse.."

This is why my ideology has always been perplexive. Because deepdown, you have been taught to avoid such thoughts. Fascism is bad. But what is fascism other then the public display of government flexing it's muscle? We exprience fascism anyway. But it wouldn't be wise to think about it too much. Or people might start to get mad.. and do something about it..

As I got older, I began to notice there was things I liked more then control. Like women, and human suffering. I began to put serious thought it what would cause more human suffering. Tyranny or freedom. To never know choice is haunting, but to be ruined by your own choices is painful.. Evidently, it really depends on the human in question. Some people take being put on a leash better then others..

Our overlords figured this out long before I did, and perfected it. I can only hope that some crazed idiot will cause an Atlas Shrugged and people will be left to their own devices. No, I don't want a communist utopian, no, I don't want a one world government. I want Mad-Max. Where all the control I need is in the barrel of a gun, and I take what I want from you, and there is no organized faction to stop me. You can call that whatever the hell you want too. But I grewout of wanting to control your life a long time ago. Now I just want what I believe to be rightfully mine, and don't really give a rat's ass what happens to you... I think we all grow more liberal as we get older. Wanting less and less to be infringed upon and understanding the principles of freedom a little bit better. Perhaps I "grewup too fast". And that's why I comeoff as a bit like a terrorist...

But then what do I care? A bunch of slackjawed yokels who can't even control their own sexual urges and are slaves to the free market don't really have a leg to standon when it comes to judging me, now do they?
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Reply #55 - Jan 27th, 2009 at 7:55am
 
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Perhaps I "grewup too fast". And that's why I comeoff as a bit like a terrorist...


I think maybe you haven't grown up at all JP, sort of like a Micheal Jackson type character.
Maybe you see yourself as being on the same mental and emotional level as a child, and maybe you actually are.
Quite possibly, you are in fact a twelve year old posting here. Your lack of empathy and level of spelling suggests somewhere around year 7.

If it's not the case that you are merely attention seeking, and your "shock tactic" comments are something that you sincerely believe, then you should definitely seek some help before it's too late.





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Reply #56 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 7:56pm
 
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I think maybe you haven't grown up at all JP, sort of like a Micheal Jackson type character.


Nah he's definitely Cliff Claven off of Cheers. Or the Janitor on Scrubs.
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Reply #57 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 7:59pm
 
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This is why my ideology has always been perplexive. Because deepdown, you have been taught to avoid such thoughts. Fascism is bad. But what is fascism other then the public display of government flexing it's muscle? We exprience fascism anyway. But it wouldn't be wise to think about it too much. Or people might start to get mad.. and do something about it..


More than that, you are a complete moron who cannot get a real job OR a real girlfriend. You shouldn't be in charge of running a car pool or the office lottery sweep let alone holding the position of dictator ruling a SuperPower.
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Reply #58 - Feb 12th, 2009 at 2:57pm
 
No matter what anyone in here says..we all read everything Jim Profit says.

For even if you dont agree with his veiws, he is controversial,his brain is engaged and his ideas cause us to pause and think outside the norm..

We should not abuse his every post..

There is not a lot to agree with at times, but at times his writing is thought provoking and very entertaining..I find myself agreeing to many things he says about the perverse nature of Govts..

He might be young..but he is NOT stupid..and he is certainly not 12.

Keep it up Jim, well done..just leave out the shock and awe.
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Reply #59 - Feb 12th, 2009 at 8:25pm
 
I don't read anything he says...  it'd be more preferable to beat my head up against a brick wall.

Perhaps he and Athos would make a great pair.
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