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Reply #30 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 9:49pm

TFIFOH, well I have never come across your posts before, unless you are a multiple name bluey.
I realise some idiocy is too much for one identity to bear, but anyone hopeless enough to even think up a title like that, let alone to have the wit to actually use it, is obviously a giant among microbes.

So as far as porn goes, it is just so huge in its varieties, and the differing degrees of degradations it can portray, as to need more than the simple term "porn" to categorise it.
Now plain old, vanilla style Erotica, can be very well done, and enjoyed by many people, but I agree that the influence the internet has had on what is produced, has been dramatic, where some tend to go for more, and more, bizarre and shocking fetishes, in the hope of cashing in.

I think we need to rely pretty much on our standard laws as a guide, and what is not allowed by law, should also not be allowed in porn, other than that, I cannot see how we can effect much control, without impinging on personal freedoms, and expression.

There is a good saying, what is seen, cannot be unseen, so I have always kept that in mind, so I have not seen more than the descriptive titles of the more bizarre types of porn, but of the bits I have seen, a lot is over the top, and certainly would not fill any idea that I consider erotic.

I think a lot of people may just be after shock value.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 8868 Gender:	Re: Pornography Reply #31 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 9:57pm I agree with Mantra, some of the porn "is very strange and disturbing". more: http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Arts/Misc/AphroditePan.jpg http://hdelboy.club.fr/aphrodite_2.jpg
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Aviatrix Junior Member Offline Posts: 71	Re: Pornography Reply #32 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 10:00pm Mozzaok, what is wrong with my name?
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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Pornography Reply #33 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 10:34pm Quote: I agree with Mantra, some of the porn "is very strange and disturbing". Gee I didn't realise it was that strange and disturbing Tallow.
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 8868 Gender:	Re: Pornography Reply #34 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 10:38pm mantra wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 10:34pm: Quote: I agree with Mantra, some of the porn "is very strange and disturbing". Gee I didn't realise it was that strange and disturbing Tallow. It also was before internet, which is even stranger and more disturbing.
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Reply #35 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 10:42pm

Mozz -

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There is a good saying, what is seen, cannot be unseen, so I have always kept that in mind, so I have not seen more than the descriptive titles of the more bizarre types of porn, but of the bits I have seen, a lot is over the top, and certainly would not fill any idea that I consider erotic.

The first comp I "owned" was a laptop that belonged to someone else and I think her boys had a great time accessing porn sites so that the whole thing was gummed up with viruses from porn sites..

In the middle of typing up an assignment all of a sudden graphic images and some of it actual streamed video footage would flash on the screen..my kids were sitting with me when one such event occurred , it frightened them..

That could not be unseen....

I had to buy a new computer.

I agree the word porn somehow seems not encompass the whole spectrum of so many different of genres' of porn..so much history from very early beginnings.

Porn meaning diferent things to diferent people.

Great pics Tallowood Ive seen that first little wooden figure somewhere before...

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 8868 Gender:	Re: Pornography Reply #36 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 10:58pm oceanz wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 10:42pm: Porn meaning diferent things to diferent people. Great pics Tallowood Ive seen that first little wooden figure somewhere before... She was a Great Goddess of european aboriginals when matriarchs ruled full on. Ironically modern day feminists pronounced her pornographic.
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Reply #37 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 10:59pm

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It also was before internet, which is even stranger and more disturbing.

Of course porn has been around since the year dot, but it was harder to access before the internet.

Yes Oceanz porn does mess up your computer and I only realised after a few years why mine was getting viruses all the time. Angry

How do you supervise kids on the net constantly? One night when my daughter was about 13, she had a girlfriend staying the night and they were on MSN & webcam. I heard them giggling hysterically and sneaked up and some boy had himself on display for them. What can you do though? You can't censor and filter everything they do, much as you would like to.

But then again - rather they see this sort of stuff over the net than in person when they're young.i

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Reply #38 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 11:13pm

mantra wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 10:59pm:

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It also was before internet, which is even stranger and more disturbing.

Of course porn has been around since the year dot, but it was harder to access before the internet.

Yes it was

Yes Oceanz porn does mess up your computer and I only realised after a few years why mine was getting viruses all the time. >:

I know I often see my son and his mate giggling at the computer..I check the history but I think they've cottoned onto that one ..

How do you supervise kids on the net constantly? One night when my daughter was about 13, she had a girlfriend staying the night and they were on MSN & webcam. I heard them giggling hysterically and sneaked up and some boy had himself on display for them. What can you do though? You can't censor and filter everything they do, much as you would like to.

No you cant and most of it comes down to trust

I guess..the so called net nannies are a waste of time I think and it seems there is really nothing to help with this

But then again - rather they see this sort of stuff over the net than in person when they're young.

I guess it depends on what they see..there is a lot of animal bestiality etc out there...

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Pornography Reply #39 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 11:15pm Quote: I guess it depends on what they see..there is a lot of animal bestiality etc out there... That thought never occurred to me - but even if they had stumbled across it - they're both animal lovers, so they probably would have told me so I could complain to some authority about it.
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Reply #40 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 11:16pm

mantra wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 10:59pm:

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It also was before internet, which is even stranger and more disturbing.

Of course porn has been around since the year dot, but it was harder to access before the internet.

Yes Oceanz porn does mess up your computer and I only realised after a few years why mine was getting viruses all the time. Angry

How do you supervise kids on the net constantly? One night when my daughter was about 13, she had a girlfriend staying the night and they were on MSN & webcam. I heard them giggling hysterically and sneaked up and some boy had himself on display for them. What can you do though? You can't censor and filter everything they do, much as you would like to.

But then again - rather they see this sort of stuff over the net than in person when they're young.

Why would you need to do anything about it considering that forbidden fruit attracts more attention?
It seems to me that modern porno become popular as kind of rebellion rather then inherently evil thing.

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Pornography Reply #41 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 11:19pm Quote: Why would you need to do anything about it considering that forbidden fruit attracts more attention? That's exactly right Tallow and probably why I didn't make an issue of trying to censor anything much, whether it be movies or the net.
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Reply #42 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 11:29pm

mantra wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 11:19pm:

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Why would you need to do anything about it considering that forbidden fruit attracts more attention?

That's exactly right Tallow and probably why I didn't make an issue of trying to censor anything much, whether it be movies or the net.

Neither did I and both of my sons who are adults now hanged on about it.

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Pornography Reply #43 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 11:32pm Do you mean that they're not hung up on it Tallow? If you do, both my children who are young adults are exactly the same. I've seen too many children brought up with strict parents and lots of restrictions and they either go beserk as young adults or end up with heaps of problems.
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Reply #44 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 11:53pm

mantra wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 11:32pm:

Do you mean that they're not hung up on it Tallow?

If you do, both my children who are young adults are exactly the same. I've seen too many children brought up with strict parents and lots of restrictions and they either go beserk as young adults or end up with heaps of problems.

Yes, exactly the same.

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