Can you list all the situtations under which a Muslim may acquire a slave?

Only children of slaves or non-Muslim prisoners of war can become slaves, never a freeborn Muslim; therefore slavery is theoretically doomed to disappear with the expansion of Islam.

http://www.twf.org/Library/Slavery.html



Also :-

"It should be very clearly underlined that the slavery once practiced in the Muslim world cannot be compared to the form it had assumed -- for instance -- in the Roman Empire. Islamic legislation subjected slaveowners to a set of precise obligations, first among which was the slave's right to life, for, according to a hadith, 'Whoever kills his slave shall be killed by us'. In consequence, the murder of a slave was punished like that of a free man.

There are many other hadiths which define Islam's true attitude in this regard. The Prophet said: 'Your slaves are your brethren; therefore whoever has a brother who depends upon him must feed and clothe him in the way he feeds and clothes himself; and should not impose upon him tasks which exceed his capacity; should you ask them to do such things, then you are obliged to help them.' The Sharia takes this injunction, among many others, into account when defining the responsibilities and duties of slaveholders.

There is another teaching which enjoins respect for the human dignity of slaves: 'Let none of you say, "This man, or this woman, is my slave". He must rather say: "This is my man, and this my woman."' Putting into relief the provisional character of social ties and the authority exercised by slaveowners over their slaves, the Prophet said: 'It is true that God has made you their masters, but, had He so wished, He could equally well have made you their slaves.'

To manumit a slave has always been regarded as one of the most meritorious of all acts, and many passages of the Qur'an recommend or even require it, particularly as a means of expiation for serious faults. Traditional legislation lays down the methods of voluntary liberation of slaves by their masters (itq), and there were very many Muslims who observed these, especially at the end of their lives, so as not to die and appear before God without having given full freedom to the human beings placed in their power during their earthly lives. "

http://www.twf.org/Library/Slavery.html

aaahhhh, I don't think so.

"Dhimmis, on pain of death, were forbidden to mock or criticize the Koran, Islam or Muhammad, to proselytize among Muslims or to touch a Muslim woman (though a Muslim man could take a non­Muslim as a wife)."

Course, some things may be worse than being a slave !!!

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/Jews_in_Arab_lands_(gen).html


It may be good to get a PM from lestat or Abu for that one.

You posted this sprint:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1224850702/2#2

The transgression by the dhimmis of some of these obligations, abolished their protection, and threaten them with death or slavery.

Well it's the slavery part I'm interested in. If it is another mechanism to acquire slaves, it creates a perverse economic incentive to actively enforce a perverse law. They even get to play the good guys, by giving the recalcitrant Dhimmi a 'choice' between slavery and death.

At least you will get a straight answer here - AND no threat .

lestat - this was started because we dont get any answers from Abu or you.
Only deflections or abuse.

Feel free to correct me where I am wrong.

So lestat - how have my answers gone so far ??

locutius - thanks.
hahha, that'ld be a touighie to answer.
No, i am only here answering stuff on behalf of muslims, not a one.

they seem to not want to give styraight answers, I got so frustrated thought someone should !!

yes, in defense of muslims .  

No, it is not beyond ordinary debating parameters.
But who you say it to makes the difference.

Some muslims are VERY religious.
They pray 5* a day every day plus extras. Their prayers take HOURS
They go on ramadan - ie fasting for a month.
They travel to mecca as much as they can.

There is no gap between their belief and themselves.
They are their belief, every day every step.

Any criticism against the koran or mohammad is NOT just a criticism against a book or a historic person.
It is a slap bang right in their face personal attack.

because muslims do not accept ordinary debating parameters.
Criticism cuts right through them.

I don't feel that that is sharia law, though for "right" muslims, that may be what their goal is.

So, cant have sharia as a goal and accept ordinary debating

that's only the "strict" muslims.

a pluralist society accepts everyone. That is its strength, and weakness.


it would be hard to be intolerant to intolerance.
yes, many people are scared to say boo to a muslim, other apologetics will "defend muslims rights."


violence is only if infidels resist - entirely up to us