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Indonesian muslim cleric married 12-year-old. (Read 15641 times)
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Reply #45 - Nov 2nd, 2008 at 1:48pm
 
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LOL...Although I dont agree with this situation, it is vastly different from the original topic. Arranged marriages have been around for centuries. As Abu has pointed out, they can be anulled.


Then maybe you should ask abu why he moved my post here in the first place.

It wouldn't be a control thingy would it abu?


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Reply #46 - Nov 2nd, 2008 at 1:50pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Nov 2nd, 2008 at 1:29pm:
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You've said that before? I can't believe I didn't notice that


The sad thing is, I said it in response to you freediver, this is just vindication that you don't actually read anything I post, you're too busy just trying to think of new questions to ask about Islam, that you can denigrate it with...

(posts #25 and #28 of this very same thread we're in now)


Not exactly Abu. All you did is create a strawman and knock it down, then list the ways that views on love are similar, while leaving out the differences. Perhaps this should help explain why your constant claims to have 'answered it already' are nonsense. Perhaps you think you are some kind of perfect writer and everyone understands the full implications of everything you say. It would help if you showed some humility and accepted that even you are prone to miscommunication and need to repeat yourself, calrify, paraphrase or whatever.
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Reply #47 - Nov 2nd, 2008 at 2:30pm
 

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In Islam we have quite a different perception of love than most non-Muslims do. To you it is usually a temporary overwhelming infatuation that disables reason and logic.

For us, it is a strong and spiritual bond that grows over time and is based around our belief in God, and in Islam.


That's pretty clear if you ask me. And it's quite obvious you never even read it, because you clearly stated that you must've missed it.

Don't be ashamed that you didn't read my posts (and answers to you) but understand that's generally why I've become disinterested in discussing things in any great detail with you.
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Reply #48 - Nov 2nd, 2008 at 2:32pm
 
It's not clear. You create the misconception that the difference is limited to your strawman.
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Reply #49 - Nov 2nd, 2008 at 2:47pm
 

It's not clear to me either.

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So what's your personal opinion of the incident Abu? Do you think it is wrong, given the modern context? Or even in absolute terms? Do you think that by allowing this sort of absurdity Islam makes it inevitable?


to which a clear answer would be either
a/ I dont agree

or

b/ I do agree.

With quotes/reasons to support your opinion either way.


To me, the formalities and a contract is significant, thereofre those associated ust entirely agree.
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Reply #50 - Nov 2nd, 2008 at 5:56pm
 
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It's not clear to me either.


That's because you don't seem to realise what we were talking about.

My response is relating to the Islamic concept of love...
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Reply #51 - Nov 2nd, 2008 at 6:02pm
 

A/ Do you agree ?

B/ Don't you agree ?
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