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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41193 Gender:	Re: What is the "Good News" of the koran ? Reply #30 - Oct 26^th, 2008 at 10:13pm So, is there a "Good message" in the koran?
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: What is the "Good News" of the koran ? Reply #31 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 11:55pm Yeh, be good to your neighbour, unless he's an infidel, in that case make him a dhimmi and force him to pay the jizyah in humiliation... You already know all this though sprint don't you? Why you even bothering to still ask?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: What is the "Good News" of the koran ? Reply #32 - Oct 28^th, 2008 at 9:21am Oh I wouldn't be bragging about that aboo... that's appalling and in bad taste. Why would you support that?
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Reply #33 - Oct 28^th, 2008 at 9:29am

Look I realise that some just want to hate a religion different to their own, and I am not actually targeting anyone from these forums with that comment, but many actually hoped that the negative messages they had heard about Islam, could be refuted, by muslims that actually know.

Well I was one of the latter, as Grendel will attest from our disagreements over the matter on cracker, but I just do not see any muslim putting any fears to rest.

All the aspects that decent, non-muslims, find troubling, are unable to be contradicted, or effectively denied, to any level of credibility.

The best we get is that, "we only do that stuff when at war"

Now with the number of crackpots describing themselves as at war, this is not very reassuring.

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Reply #34 - Nov 1^st, 2008 at 8:45pm

I just read a hadith today which I thought of you mozza when I read it. I'm sure there's still something wrong with it in your eyes, but I guess we can only keep trying.

The Prophet (pbuh) said, "The strong is not the one who overcomes the people by his strength, but the strong is the one who controls himself while in anger."

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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 55340 Gender:	Re: What is the "Good News" of the koran ? Reply #35 - Oct 27^th, 2025 at 8:56pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 13^th, 2008 at 11:22pm: What is the good news of it ? There isn't any. It's Mohammed's Mein Kampft.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20153 Gender:	Re: What is the "Good News" of the koran ? Reply #36 - Oct 27^th, 2025 at 11:54pm abu_rashid wrote on Oct 27^th, 2008 at 11:55pm: Yeh, be good to your neighbour, unless he's an infidel, in that case make him a dhimmi and force him to pay the jizyah in humiliation... Paying the Jizyah is like paying protection money to the Mafia
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Reply #37 - Oct 28^th, 2025 at 3:04pm

It finally happened

A large group of Muslims were holding a very public prayer in Dallas Texas and
a Christian man boldly went to hold his own prayer to protest against the Islamic takeover of America

“And lead us not into temptation but delivery us from Islam”

https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/b6/b9/a2/b6b9a260b717324a53012663d64687eb.m...

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Reply #38 - Oct 28^th, 2025 at 3:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2025 at 3:04pm:

It finally happened

A large group of Muslims were holding a very public prayer in Dallas Texas and
a Christian man boldly went to hold his own prayer to protest against the Islamic takeover of America

“And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from Islam”

https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/b6/b9/a2/b6b9a260b717324a53012663d64687eb.m...

Had to be the loudest prayer present? Typical Christianophile.

Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #39 - Oct 28^th, 2025 at 3:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 28^th, 2025 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2025 at 3:04pm:

It finally happened

A large group of Muslims were holding a very public prayer in Dallas Texas and
a Christian man boldly went to hold his own prayer to protest against the Islamic takeover of America

“And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from Islam”

https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/b6/b9/a2/b6b9a260b717324a53012663d64687eb.m...

Had to be the loudest prayer present? Typical Christianophile.

Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Someone has to carry the heavy burden of the cross.

Brian is forgiven

namaste

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Re: What is the "Good News" of the koran ?
Reply #40 - Oct 28^th, 2025 at 6:10pm

mozzaok wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 8:09pm:

Well as I had never looked, I had assumed it would be easy for you, but since you struggled to find anything, I decided to try and search some out by googling.

So far I found.....

"‘The true servants of the Most Merciful are those who behave gently and with humility on earth, and whenever the foolish quarrel with them, they reply with [words of] peace.’"

And then a female muslim for peace posted this one,

"To each of you God has prescribed a Law and a Way. If God would have willed, He would have made you a single people. But God's purpose is to test you in what he has given each of you, so strive in the pursuit of virtue, and know that you will all return to God [in the Hereafter], and He will resolve all the matters in which you disagree."

Qur'an 5:49.

That was the sort of thing I was hoping to find, I just never dreamed it would be so difficult.

It is a very nice sentiment, and exactly the type of sentiment that would see muslims able to live peacefully anywhere, if they truly believed in it.

That last quote explains why God created free-will, whereas Christ's great commandment to "Love God and love one-another" simply urges people to choose the righteous path.

But the 'Holy Books' (scripture) are full of contradictions, which is why eg I won't go near the genocidal OT "god", or regard every word of the Koran as the "Word of God".

It's a topic the UNGA should be examining in depth, assisted by the world's scholars of scriptural studies; then maybe the (in)famous, highly disputed UN res 181 could finally be implemented to the satisfaction of all.

Hamas has (at last!) said they are on board with UN res 181 - PROVIDED Israel wirhdraws to the pre-'67 borders; I haven't heard the extremists in Bibi's cabinet express similar sentiments.

And Trump is too inconsistent in his thinking to guarantee the implementation of UN res 181, though he could guarantee it today because the other 4 UNSC members are all in favour (with the UNSC possessing 99% of the world's military force).

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17215 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: What is the "Good News" of the koran ? Reply #41 - Oct 28^th, 2025 at 6:39pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 27^th, 2025 at 11:54pm: abu_rashid wrote on Oct 27^th, 2008 at 11:55pm: Yeh, be good to your neighbour, unless he's an infidel, in that case make him a dhimmi and force him to pay the jizyah in humiliation... Paying the Jizyah is like paying protection money to the Mafia
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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 55340 Gender:	Re: What is the "Good News" of the koran ? Reply #42 - Nov 9^th, 2025 at 9:30pm
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 45710	Re: What is the "Good News" of the koran ? Reply #43 - Nov 9^th, 2025 at 9:33pm Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Islam lives in your head, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3316 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: What is the "Good News" of the koran ? Reply #44 - Nov 13^th, 2025 at 10:25am Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9^th, 2025 at 9:33pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Islam lives in your head, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Poltroon.
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