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How hideous of him!

those good news bits, as "convuluted" as they are. Said very little good news.
Surely there are more better ones ? please post.
hand pick some, cherry pick, go for it.

Now is the time to put your best bits on display !!!

If you wanted 'golden rules' and 'wise, kind words' you should've stated from the beginning.

I truly understood you to mean does the Qur'an mention the "Good news" or "Glad tidings" which are mentioned in the Bible, and are translated from the Hebrew term "basara".

Golden rules and advice based in wisdom is mostly to be found in the sayings of Muhammad (pbuh), a few examples:

"Actions are judged by motives, so each man will have what he intended."

"None of you truly believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself"

"Let whosoever believes in Allah and in the Last Day either speak good or be silent. Let whosoever believes in Allah and in the Last Day honour his neighbour. Let whosoever believes in Allah and in the Last Day honour his guest."

“Fear Allah wherever you may be; follow up an evil deed with a good one which will wipe (the former) out, and behave good-naturedly towards people.” (Just a note on this hadith. The word translated as fear is not the actual word for fear in Arabic, it's a word that encompasses many concepts, most notably piety, but also incorporates fear of God's punishment. As I'm sure some will rush to try and attack it)

"O Messenger of Allah, the rich have taken away all the rewards. They observe the prayer as we do, and they keep the fasts as we do, and they give sadaqah (charity) from their surplus riches." Upon this he (the Prophet) said: "Has Allah not prescribed for you (a course) by following which you can also do sadaqah? Verily in every time you say "Glory be to Allah" there is a sadaqah, every takbir (i.e. saying Allahu Akbar) is a sadaqah, every time you say "Praise be to God" is a sadaqah, every time you affirm the oneness of God is a sadaqah, enjoining of good is a sadaqah, forbidding of evil is a sadaqah, and having sexual intercourse with your wife is a sadaqah. They (the Companions) said: "O Messenger of Allah, is there reward for him who satisfies his sexual passion among us?" He said: "Tell me, if he were to devote it to something forbidden, would it not be a sin on his part? Similarly, if he were to devote it to something lawful, he should have a reward."

"On every person's joints or small bones (i.e. fingers and toes), there is sadaqah (charity) every day the sun rises. Doing justice between two people is sadaqah; assisting a man to mount his animal, or lifting up his belongings onto it is sadaqah; a good word is sadaqah; every step you take towards prayer is sadaqah; and removing harmful things from pathways is sadaqah."

A man came to the Prophet (pbuh), and said: "O Messenger of Allah, direct me to an act which if I do it, [will cause] Allah to love me and people to love me." He (pbuh) answered: "Be indifferent to the world and Allah will love you; be indifferent to what people possess and they will love you."


"Do not be envious of one another; do not artificially inflate prices against one another; do not hate one another; do not shun one another; and do not undercut one another in business transactions; and be as fellow-brothers and servants of Allah.

A Muslim is the brother of a Muslim. He neither oppresses him nor humiliates him nor looks down upon him. Piety is here - and he pointed to his chest three times. It is evil enough for a Muslim to hold his brother Muslim in contempt. All things of a Muslim are inviolable for another Muslim: his blood, his property and his honour."

"Whosoever relieves from a believer some grief pertaining to this world, Allah will relieve from him some grief pertaining to the Hereafter. Whosoever alleviates the difficulties of a needy person who cannot pay his debt, Allah will alleviate his difficulties in both this world and the Hereafter. Whosoever conceals the faults of a Muslim, Allah will conceal his faults in this world and the Hereafter. Allah will aid a servant (of His) so long as the servant aids his brother. Whosoever follows a path to seek knowledge therein, Allah will make easy for him a path to Paradise. No people gather together in one of the houses of Allah, reciting the Book of Allah and studying it among themselves, except that tranquility descends upon them, mercy covers them, the angels surround them, and Allah makes mention of them amongst those who are in His presence. Whosoever is slowed down by his deeds will not be hastened forward by his lineage."

"Be in this world as though you were a stranger or a traveler/wayfarer."
Ibn 'Umar used to say:
"When evening comes, do not expect (to live till) morning, and when morning comes, do not expect (to live till) evening. Take from your health (a preparation) for your illness, and from your life for your death."

"Allah the Almighty has said: 'O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me, and hope in Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds in the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I shall forgive you. O son of Adam, were you to come to Me with an earthful of sins and were you then to face Me, without having associated anything with Me, I shall grant you an earthful of pardon.'"

Are these the kinds of wisdoms you all seek?

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They certainly sound a lot better and have some similarity to the Christian commandments, although the floweriness of the sentences are a bit distracting.  It could be translated into a more simple form though for wider appeal.

Extraordinary - it takes a Born Again Happy Clapper's repeated requests to get abu to post anything good from the koran !!

he STILL ends up arguing, deleting and threatening.


Don't know if I can be bothered making anymore positive spiritual suggestions.

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I knew it didn't matter what was posted mozza, you'd not be pleased with it. You're an avowed anti-religion atheist, so why even pretend you were going to be a willing audience? Who are you jibbing? Certainly not me, so perhaps only yourself?

I don't see what's so inadequate about the translation of things like "None of you truly believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself"?? Is it unclear for you? Having trouble comprehending? Is it not the way you'd compose a sentence?

Personally I just think you'd like to continue attacking Islam in any means you can manage to devise.

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How about you detail your exact specifications for what kind of text you'd like? How about for a start you give me an example? do you have a favourite Bible quote that you'd like to find an equivalent of in the Islamic texts?

I just really don't understand what it is you claim to be seeking, and quite obviously will never be able to be satisfied finding...

So let's begin, they must be basic? Yet at the same time profound?

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Ahhh, so you're looking for something a little more whimsical and obscure? With a hidden meaning perhaps? Stick to the movies.

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I wouldn't exactly say they were hadiths based around rules. The fact that "A good word is charity" or "You don't truly believe until your brothers wishes come first" or that poor people can give charity through their kindness or to behave good naturedly to people or that your actions will be judged by your intentions or that you should honour your guests and neighbours or remain silent if you have nothing good to say... Just rules are they?

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We have a language critic amongst us. Perhaps you could reconstruct some of the translations in better English for us? (btw, if you want to use this aa a further attempt to mock, don't bother, just forget it as you're already skating on thin ice in here).

Could you at least point out a single passage you thought to be an exceedingly clumsy translation?

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Well I'm sure they weren't literary masters, but I can't for the life of me see anything in their translations which is 'exceedingly clumsy'.

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For example? anything specific in mind? Or just a blanket criticism because you haven't really got anywhere else to go?

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Ahhh, you want fuzzy wuzzy little verses that show you that Islam is all cuddly and warm and friendly?

So, we have so far..

Basic
Profound
Loving and Tolerant

Those are your only criteria?

Well as I had never looked, I had assumed it would be easy for you, but since you struggled to find anything, I decided to try and search some out by googling.

So far I  found one.

"‘The true servants of the Most Merciful are those who behave gently and with humility on earth, and whenever the foolish quarrel with them, they reply with [words of] peace.’"

This was one of many quoted as being "treasures of the koran", in a muslim forum, the others were not really what I was looking for, they were more like rule book stuff.

However, the replies that followed contained some hateful vitriol, including one about people having their flesh burned from them, and then repaced to be burnt off again.

Yuk!

And then a female muslim for peace posted this one,

"To each of you God has prescribed a Law and a Way. If God would have willed, He would have made you a single people. But God's purpose is to test you in what he has given each of you, so strive in the pursuit of virtue, and know that you will all return to God [in the Hereafter], and He will resolve all the matters in which you disagree."

Qur'an 5:49.


That was the sort of thing I was hoping to find, I just never dreamed it would be so difficult.

It is a very nice sentiment, and exactly the type of sentiment that would see muslims able to live peacefully anywhere, if they truly believed in it.

No sprint, the guy posted excerpts from treasures of the koran, of which I could only find the one that was even vaguely uplifting.

The reply was from another muslim who reckoned watching non-muslims burning in hell was worthy of being included as a treasure.

But the girl, whose sig of muslims for peace, was a good sign that she was more likely to offer something worthwhile posted the tolerance for all one, or don't judge others, that's god's job, which ever way you want to interpret it.

I actually am very disappointed that great moral lessons and inspiring verses seem to be very difficult to find, it was not what I expected>
I had seen all the bossy hateful stuff, linked by christians putting down Islam, but I assumed that they were picking out the worst bits, and that the good and kind bits would outnumber them exponentially, but I am struggling to find evidence of that.