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Reply #210 - Jun 22nd, 2008 at 4:44pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 21st, 2008 at 11:30pm:
muso - there are a few significant differences between mugabe and saudi.

mugabe pretends to run a free election but murders anyone who opposes him.
he has destroyed the country and unjustly dealt with many people.

Saudi do not pretend to run a fee society. At least they are honest !!
For the muslims within saudi, it's not too bad really.
Within saudi, there are no gross infractions of .......... mass sections of the society.

Not that i support either society.


Try telling the Shi'ites that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia
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Reply #211 - Jun 22nd, 2008 at 7:09pm
 
hhhmmm.

point taken.
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Reply #212 - Jun 22nd, 2008 at 11:12pm
 
muso wrote on Jun 22nd, 2008 at 4:44pm:


Countless Shites pilgrims have been on the Hajj for many years and countless more will in the future without problem. You took 1 line from a website (where there weren't any background reference or source) as fact. Who knows what they did. Perhaps (hypothetically) they commited a crime or an infraction and in the process of being arrested by the authorities were called "infidels". Don't forget the Wahhabis religious police are very strict (to the extreme).

Never believe unverified information!

Sprint, I'm surprised that you took his point at face value without further investigation. Perhaps you were blinded (once again) by the locale which happens to be one of your pet hate countries.

I'm beginning to get a picture of how you conduct your "research". It's little wonder that you've failed to convince anyone with reasonable intelligence to your anti-Islam "logic".

Furthermore, it's funny that people would cite Wiki as an unreliable source and yet still quote from it.

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Reply #213 - Jun 22nd, 2008 at 11:57pm
 
acid - I had a flick through that link. Have seen much of that stuff before.

thing is, I did say saudi is a better situation than mugabe, and cited my reasons.
I believe the reasons are still valid, but saudi is not particularily good in free western world views.
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Reply #214 - Jun 23rd, 2008 at 9:19am
 
Acid Monkey wrote on Jun 22nd, 2008 at 11:12pm:
Sprint, I'm surprised that you took his point at face value without further investigation. Perhaps you were blinded (once again) by the locale which happens to be one of your pet hate countries.

I'm beginning to get a picture of how you conduct your "research". It's little wonder that you've failed to convince anyone with reasonable intelligence to your anti-Islam "logic".

Furthermore, it's funny that people would cite Wiki as an unreliable source and yet still quote from it.



I generally look through the references that go with a Wikipedia article before quoting it. I have read a great deal about the persecution of the minority Shi'ites in Saudi Arabia, and their concerns that if there was a war against Iran, they would be at even more risk.

Sometimes Wikipedia provides a concise summary that you don't find anywhere else, although I would never reference it for professional purposes.
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Reply #215 - Aug 25th, 2008 at 2:11am
 
A factory in the long run would be a blessing!
First a small muslim school next a mosque and before you know it thousands have moved in and white flight starts up!
It's a pattern learned over a thousand year history, it's for a reason Europeans call them cuckoos.
Now the world has 57 muslim nations, all were initially various Christian sects.
When the OIC decide that Australians are a little too cocky toward muslims then be prepared for blackmail.
Rudd will bow Fabians always will in the face of islam!
Neivety will be played like a violin when you wake up it will be too late!
Australia would come under this UN law, the Arabs are in the majority as they often remind everyone.

July 31, 2008
Fjordman: The Organization of the Islamic Conference and Eurabia
The European essayist Fjordman elucidates recent Islamic initiatives to end free speech in the West, and shows what's at stake:

Dr. Andrew Bostom, editor of the excellent book The Legacy of Jihad and the recent book about Islamic anti-Semitism, warns that the 57 Muslim nations of the Organization of the Islamic Conference are trying to impose Islamic blasphemy law -- which includes the death penalty for those who "blaspheme" the Muslim prophet Muhammad -- as the universal standard across the world.
These sentiments of the OIC were reiterated more brazenly by Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood. During a sermon in response to the Danish Muhammad cartoons which aired February 3, 2006, Qaradawi demanded action from the United Nations in accordance with sharia-based conceptions of blasphemy: "…the governments [of the world] must be pressured to demand that the U.N. adopt a clear resolution or law that categorically prohibits affronts to prophets—to the prophets of the Lord and his Messengers, to His holy books, and to the religious holy places."

The muslim brotherhood try searching BANNA NAZI!!! Angry

WIKIPEDEA..LOL! Try reading The Project by the Muslim Brotherhood-while you still are allowed!  Tariq Ramadans Nazi friends.  Roll Eyes

Islamophobia- is intelligent-aids self preservation
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Reply #216 - Aug 25th, 2008 at 9:23pm
 
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Now the world has 57 muslim nations, all were initially various Christian sects.


The vast majority of Muslim land was not originally Christian. They were Zoroastrian, Hindu, Buddhist etc. The bulk of Muslim population is concentrated in Indian sub-Continent and Indonesia, and neither of these areas were Christian, Please go take a history lesson.

Also, even the lands which were Christian, they'd been Christian for less than 500 years, they've been Muslim for 1400 years now, and prior to being Christian, what were they? Which people did the Christians wipe off the map to make them Christian nations? At least we let the Christians remain, you wiped any trace of pre-existing religions out of existence.
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Reply #217 - Aug 26th, 2008 at 8:03am
 
"But, Miss, they only had it for 500 years WE"VE had longer....waa waa waa"..."Oh but Miss, when we took over their land we let them stay, they didn't, they're big fat meanies!!"

Can you see why religion is so vile, see what it does to your psyche? You sound like a child who has been kicked out of the sandpit. "Ours", "theirs", "us" and "them" are divisive terms and you just can't help but segregate constantly.

Religion is the worst thing humans have ever invented, and the carry on continues because of attitudes like abu's.
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Reply #218 - Aug 26th, 2008 at 9:13am
 
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The vast majority of Muslim land was not originally Christian. They were Zoroastrian, Hindu, Buddhist etc. The bulk of Muslim population is concentrated in Indian sub-Continent and Indonesia, and neither of these areas were Christian, Please go take a history lesson.

Also, even the lands which were Christian, they'd been Christian for less than 500 years, they've been Muslim for 1400 years now, and prior to being Christian, what were they? Which people did the Christians wipe off the map to make them Christian nations? At least we let the Christians remain, you wiped any trace of pre-existing religions out of existence.


People have been stealing land off others since time began.  If we all had to give back what we originally stole - even going back 2,000 years - everyone would be displaced.

So even if the land belonged to the Muslims 1400 years ago - who did it belong to before then.

What would happen to us if we had to give back Australia to the aborigines?
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Reply #219 - Aug 26th, 2008 at 9:39am
 
mantra wrote on Aug 26th, 2008 at 9:13am:
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The vast majority of Muslim land was not originally Christian. They were Zoroastrian, Hindu, Buddhist etc. The bulk of Muslim population is concentrated in Indian sub-Continent and Indonesia, and neither of these areas were Christian, Please go take a history lesson.

Also, even the lands which were Christian, they'd been Christian for less than 500 years, they've been Muslim for 1400 years now, and prior to being Christian, what were they? Which people did the Christians wipe off the map to make them Christian nations? At least we let the Christians remain, you wiped any trace of pre-existing religions out of existence.


People have been stealing land off others since time began.  If we all had to give back what we originally stole - even going back 2,000 years - everyone would be displaced.

So even if the land belonged to the Muslims 1400 years ago - who did it belong to before then.

What would happen to us if we had to give back Australia to the aborigines?


Good point mantra, whites have only been here 200 years whilst the aboriginals were here for  thousands of years before us.
Although the Indonesians seem to think they have some sort of historical claim as well,maybe  they think Australia already is a muslim nation waiting to be reunited again, the'd better think again.
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Reply #220 - Aug 26th, 2008 at 9:44am
 
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So even if the land belonged to the Muslims 1400 years ago - who did it belong to before then.


I think you're a little confused, and probably should re-read the posts you're responding to. It belonged to the Christians 1400 years ago (that was Centurean2's point) and then us big bad mean Muslims took it off them.
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Reply #221 - Aug 26th, 2008 at 10:40am
 
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If we all had to give back what we originally stole - even going back 2,000 years


This is exactly what the world made the Palestinians do, give their homes to the Jews who's ancestors had apparently lived there 2000 years ago. Seems it's become quite a legitimate activity for the international community to engage in.
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Reply #222 - Aug 28th, 2008 at 9:10am
 
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mantra wrote on Aug 26th, 2008 at 9:13am:
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The vast majority of Muslim land was not originally Christian. They were Zoroastrian, Hindu, Buddhist etc. The bulk of Muslim population is concentrated in Indian sub-Continent and Indonesia, and neither of these areas were Christian, Please go take a history lesson.

Also, even the lands which were Christian, they'd been Christian for less than 500 years, they've been Muslim for 1400 years now, and prior to being Christian, what were they? Which people did the Christians wipe off the map to make them Christian nations? At least we let the Christians remain, you wiped any trace of pre-existing religions out of existence.


People have been stealing land off others since time began.  If we all had to give back what we originally stole - even going back 2,000 years - everyone would be displaced.

So even if the land belonged to the Muslims 1400 years ago - who did it belong to before then.

What would happen to us if we had to give back Australia to the aborigines?


Good point mantra, whites have only been here 200 years whilst the aboriginals were here for  thousands of years before us.
Although the Indonesians seem to think they have some sort of historical claim as well,maybe  they think Australia already is a muslim nation waiting to be reunited again, the'd better think again.


Bump for abu, do you think the Indonesians have a claim on South Irian Jaya ( Indonesian name for Australia)
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Reply #223 - Aug 28th, 2008 at 9:41am
 
It would be getting pretty damned crowded if we all had to move back to africa, where we all had our beginnings.
The human trait of colonisation and conquest is a progression where backwards steps are impossible.'

Land has been won and lost through acts of violence since tribe A liked the view from tribe B's cave better.

Maybe for your next thesis you can work on extracting whole eggs from omelettes Abu.
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Reply #224 - Aug 28th, 2008 at 2:10pm
 
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Maybe for your next thesis you can work on extracting whole eggs from omelettes Abu.


If they can be unscrambled after 2000 years, why not after only 60 years?
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