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Jervis Bay and Solitary Islands Zoning Plan Review
Apr 3rd, 2008 at 6:58pm
 
http://www.mpa.nsw.gov.au/jbmp-zoning-plan-review.html

http://www.mpa.nsw.gov.au/simp-zoning-plan-review.html

Anyone care to take a stab at how much the Sanctuary Zones will increase by?
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Reply #1 - May 20th, 2008 at 11:38pm
 
Wha happened?  I thought there were replies in this topic.
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Reply #2 - May 21st, 2008 at 8:56am
 
The server crashed and we lost a few posts. Sorry about that. I still might be able to get them back.

Have you made a submission yet Recfisher? Do you have any suggestions for modifications? I will probably have a look at it this weekend.

Submissions due June 2.
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Reply #3 - May 21st, 2008 at 2:21pm
 
I think I'll make a submission about shore based fishing spots. They don't seem to have made any effort to leave them open. Are there any that are particularly important? Do you fish in that area?



Jervis Bay:

Marine Park maps etc:

http://www.mpa.nsw.gov.au/jbmp.html

Review info:

http://www.mpa.nsw.gov.au/jbmp-zoning-plan-review.html

Map of zones:

http://www.mpa.nsw.gov.au/pdf/JBMP-zoning-plan-user-guide-Part-B.pdf

Map of habitat types:

http://www.mpa.nsw.gov.au/review/JBMP-habitat-map.pdf



Solitary Islands:

http://www.mpa.nsw.gov.au/simp.html

Zoning Map pdf:

http://www.mpa.nsw.gov.au/pdf/SIMP-Zoning-Summary-Maps.pdf

Interactive Map:

http://www.mpa.nsw.gov.au/simp-map-01.html

review info:

http://www.mpa.nsw.gov.au/simp-zoning-plan-review.html
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Reply #4 - May 21st, 2008 at 9:05pm
 
If you knew anything about recreational fishing FD you would know that landbased spots in and around Jervis Bay are iconic to anglers. They are the birthplace of landbased gamefishing. A couple of ledges inside Jervis Bay are the few places in the world where you have a good chance of catching a marlin off the shore.
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Reply #5 - May 21st, 2008 at 9:54pm
 
Silly me, I thought baiting a hook was the first thing you learnt, but no, it's where to catch marlin from the shore.
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Reply #6 - May 21st, 2008 at 10:03pm
 
freediver wrote on May 21st, 2008 at 9:54pm:
Silly me, I thought baiting a hook was the first thing you learnt, but no, it's where to catch marlin from the shore.



Yes you are rather silly - proposing wide ranging and severe restrictions on a sport you have a superficial knowledge of.
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Reply #7 - May 21st, 2008 at 11:30pm
 
No, I haven't yet.  I'm still trying to find any relevant research from both parks so I can make a more informed decision.  Evidence is thin on the ground...

I'm with PJ.  You can't really call yourself a fisherman if you don't know about JB's land based game fishing history.  It's a shame that what the Marine Park hasn't taken away, the Defence Department has.  Unlikely that any of it will ever be given back.
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Reply #8 - May 22nd, 2008 at 9:06am
 
Oops. Fixed it.
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Reply #9 - May 22nd, 2008 at 11:57am
 
So PJ, are you going to tell us what the important land based spots are, or is being able to bignote yourself more important than actually making them available?
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Reply #10 - May 25th, 2008 at 4:23pm
 
freediver wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 11:57am:
So PJ, are you going to tell us what the important land based spots are, or is being able to bignote yourself more important than actually making them available?


Why should I assist such an avowed advocate of marine parks as yourself? Do your own research (if its not too much effort).
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Reply #11 - May 25th, 2008 at 4:32pm
 
Actually, I don't think I'll bother. There's no point trying to help people who don't want to be helped. The locals are obviously happy with the site selection process, otherwise I would have had at least one useful response on one of the forums I posted this on.
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Reply #12 - May 25th, 2008 at 5:00pm
 
freediver wrote on May 25th, 2008 at 4:32pm:
Actually, I don't think I'll bother. There's no point trying to help people who don't want to be helped. The locals are obviously happy with the site selection process, otherwise I would have had at least one useful response on one of the forums I posted this on.


I don't think we need your sort of help. There was nothing wrong with the fishing in JB before the park was declared and no evidence that the park has improved the fishing. So why should the locals be "happy"? Why don't you ask the retired police officer who now has a criminal conviction for accidently fishing in one of the poorly marked green zones how happy he is?
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Reply #13 - May 25th, 2008 at 5:07pm
 
I'm not after whingers, I'm after practical suggestions. If you won't accept help from a fellow fishermen just because he doesn't share your political views down to the line then don't expect to be able to get anything useful done.
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Reply #14 - May 25th, 2008 at 5:18pm
 
freediver wrote on May 25th, 2008 at 5:07pm:
I'm not after whingers, I'm after practical suggestions. If you won't accept help from a fellow fishermen just because he doesn't share your political views down to the line then don't expect to be able to get anything useful done.



Pot-kettle-black! In past I have put up suggestions for area management and you just ignored them because they didn't fit your mantra of large green zones. This is the hallmark of an ideologue. Anything outside the narrow ideology gets rejected out of hand.
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