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Reply #15 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 9:21pm
 
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How about the alleged AWB cheats, DT?  Jail for them an appropriate option?


After all, all they alllegedly did was ensure a good price for Australian wheat.
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Reply #16 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 9:32pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 11th, 2008 at 9:21pm:
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How about the alleged AWB cheats, DT?  Jail for them an appropriate option?


After all, all they alllegedly did was ensure a good price for Australian wheat.


Who are we talking about Aussie?  I think you will find Commissioner Cole suggested there may have been breaches of the criminal code.
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Reply #17 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 10:04pm
 
deepthought wrote on Jan 11th, 2008 at 9:32pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 11th, 2008 at 9:21pm:
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How about the alleged AWB cheats, DT?  Jail for them an appropriate option?


After all, all they alllegedly did was ensure a good price for Australian wheat.


Who are we talking about Aussie?  I think you will find Commissioner Cole suggested there may have been breaches of the criminal code.


What Criminal Code?

....or, do you mean the capacity of ASIC to lay a charge under either civil or criminal provisons of Corporations Law?

In either case, your argument is shallow, and inconsistent.  You would deny the Feds the capacity to send to jail buggerers under ACCC legislation and yet you submit to their capacity to do so under ASIC legislation.

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Reply #18 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 11:11pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 11th, 2008 at 10:04pm:
deepthought wrote on Jan 11th, 2008 at 9:32pm:
Aussie wrote on Jan 11th, 2008 at 9:21pm:
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How about the alleged AWB cheats, DT?  Jail for them an appropriate option?


After all, all they alllegedly did was ensure a good price for Australian wheat.


Who are we talking about Aussie?  I think you will find Commissioner Cole suggested there may have been breaches of the criminal code.


What Criminal Code?

....or, do you mean the capacity of ASIC to lay a charge under either civil or criminal provisons of Corporations Law?

In either case, your argument is shallow, and inconsistent.  You would deny the Feds the capacity to send to jail buggerers under ACCC legislation and yet you submit to their capacity to do so under ASIC legislation.



No, I mean exactly what I said.  May I suggest you read my posts for the first time?

I mean a breach of the criminal code (deepy repeated).  It is a breach of the Commonwealth Criminal Code to bribe a foreign public official.

I am saying (and repeating ad nauseum) that the law is adequate as it is.  To start throwing people in prison for colluding to set the price of model airplanes, toy trucks, cardboard boxes or horse manure is phuqtackingly craptacular.  It could only happen with a freedom hating Liebor government.

I voted Liberal.
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Reply #19 - Jan 12th, 2008 at 10:21am
 
This is another necessary law. It really pisses me off when I go to America and the marked prices exclude their equivalent of the GST, tips and other charges. The standard response from the business is 'we don't get the tax, or the tips which go to employees.' By that logic they should exclude all their other costs and only mark the profits on the item. It's just stupid. Marked and advertised prices are for the customer, not so the business knows how much they get from each transaction.

http://news.smh.com.au/rudd-govt-to-outlaw-hidden-pricing/20080112-1ljw.html

The federal government may introduce laws forcing airlines and retailers to advertise the full cost of their products, and not exclude hidden fees and taxes.

Under the bill, drafted by the previous Howard government, so-called component pricing would have been outlawed.

Assistant Treasurer Chris Bowen said Labor is now considering resurrecting the bill, Fairfax Newspapers report.

The airlines are the most high-profile offenders of component pricing, often not including levies and taxes when they advertise their flights, Fairfax says.
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Reply #20 - Jan 12th, 2008 at 1:14pm
 
freediver - I absolutely agree with this law.

it is ridiculous for me to get quotes then all GST, then postage and packaging !!
The customer wants to know how much it will cost us.

If someone says $120, that is what is will cost me. $120.
Not somewhere over $130 or more.

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Reply #21 - Jan 12th, 2008 at 1:58pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 12th, 2008 at 1:14pm:
freediver - I absolutely agree with this law.

it is ridiculous for me to get quotes then all GST, then postage and packaging !!
The customer wants to know how much it will cost us.

If someone says $120, that is what is will cost me. $120.
Not somewhere over $130 or more.



Agreed.  When I shop, I want to know what it will cost.  The prices of cars should really be 'on road' and air tickets should be what it costs to board.

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Reply #22 - Jan 12th, 2008 at 3:05pm
 
I looked into the car issue recently. That is also a big scam. There are some genuine dealer delivery charges for new cars. If you live in Alice Springs you will have to pay a bit more. The simple way to get around that is to demand that any vehicle be available for the advertised price in at least two capital cities for nationawide advertising, or two dealers if the advertising is limited to a state or region. On top of ripping you off, they won't even tell you what the price is, even if you turn up in person. You have to do a test drive then sit with them for half an hour while they tell you what a good deal they can line up and ask you how much you are willing to pay. You basically have to agree to buy it before they will tell you.
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