I know your post wasn't meant to be funny DT but it made me laugh anyway.  You sound just like my son.  My daughter gets on with gay males and enjoys their company.  She has a few close gay boys as friends who are very good to her.

You have to wonder why so many males - particularly the younger ones - are so against gay males.  Older gays seem to disappear into the woodwork, but the younger ones are very insecure and are subject to a lot of ridicule.  They want to have young friends of both sexes too - yet they are constantly rejected by their own sex.  Is it fear that makes young heterosexual males think that a gay boy wants to come onto them?

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2007 at 7:08pm:


Well that's MY point, freediver, they shouldn't be allowed. It IS affecting me.


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Yeah... I'm sure you'd love two guys holding hands and getting it on in public freediver.  That's why you want it so much. 

I for one, like many other males... don't want to see it. We'd see them as 'equals' just so-long as they'd keep it behind closed doors. Until then... they'll forever be seen as outsiders. Guys having sex with guys are by no means equal... and should not be recognised as so.


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Does your daughter have many lesbian friends? 

Thought not.

Judge strips mum of custody because she's a lesbianArticle from: Agence France-PresseFont size: Decrease Increase Email article: Email Print article: Print From correspondents in Madrid
July 24, 2007 06:38am

A JUDGE in Spain has stripped a mother of custody of her two daughters because she is a lesbian, the media said today, in a ruling that has sparked an outcry in the gay community and brought disciplinary action against him.

In a ruling last month in the south-east region of Murcia, Judge Fernando Ferrin handed the girls over to their father's care, saying a homosexual environment threatened their education and upbringing.

He said a gay environment increased the "risk" that the children would also grow up homosexual.

"The mother has to choose between her daughters and the new partner," Judge Ferrin was quoted as saying in his June 6 ruling which has just come to light.

The decision provoked outrage among Spain's gay community, which said it ran contrary to the constitution, and prompted Murcia's Supreme Court to open disciplinary proceedings against Judge Ferrin.

The same judge, in a separate case, already faces a probe into attempts to block the adoption of a girl by her mother's gay partner.

Homosexuals in Spain benefit from some of Europe's most liberal gay rights legislation following decades of repression, including imprisonment, under conservative dictator Francisco Franco.

Homosexuality was legalised in 1979 and two years ago the Socialist government made Spain only the third country in the world to legalise gay marriage.


http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,22124972-954,00.html

This view was bought by by others here. Pretty valid point.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/First-gay-couple-adopt-in-WA/2007/06/14/1181414432133.html

The legal adoption of a child by a gay couple in Western Australia, believed to be Australia's first, has been hailed as "groundbreaking" by the state government.

The adoption by the two men follows 2002's changes to the state adoption act.

He said some people would find the decision to let a gay couple adopt challenging.

But the minister said the child's best interests were considered.

*Shakes head*

Do those f@gs realise that they're going to mess up the poor kids mentality?

Dark day in Australia. 

It did say the childs best interests were taken into account.
While I am not greatly pleased by it, it may be the best resolution.

Kids are best bought up by a man and a woman I believe.
Perhaps the mum is a drug addict or dead or mental ?
perhaps the two gays are .... stable.

A very difficult thing to form an opinion on.  On the one hand there is a discrimination against gay people issue involved if this couple are decent people and were not allowed to adopt a child. On the other is that the affects of gay couple parenting on a child are not, as I understand it, well-known.

We also do not know what information was considered by those making this decision and what knowledge they have that we don't.

I believe the child's interest is what should be of  primary importance as the child is more vulnerable and has more maturing to do than the adult(s). I also believe it possible for some gay couples to parent effectively. BUT, does discrimination in our community mean the child of such a couple will have a very difficult time?

But what if one of the parents is the child's natural father and already has a relationship with the child established? What if the child already lives with the couple? We don't know the details.