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Reply #1 - Apr 24th, 2007 at 3:47pm
 
This is a good way to solve the gay marriage issue in a way that grants equal rights to gays without upsetting those who like to think they own the term 'marriage.'

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Samesex-register-by-years-end-Bracks/2007/04/24/1177180620708.html

Human rights and same-sex lobby groups have hailed the Victorian government's decision to introduce a register for gay couples before years' end.

Premier Steve Bracks announced that his government would move to introduce similar laws to those in Tasmania, setting up a register for same-sex and de facto couples plus people in long-term care giving relationships.

"It is a register system where you apply through births, deaths and marriages with a statutory declaration for a register for your relationship," Mr Bracks told Southern Cross radio.

"It eases the pressure on continual proof, for example if you have an accident and somebody is in intensive care obviously those proof arrangements are difficult.

"I think this step removes any legal impediments and makes sure the law works equally no matter what your situation."

Couples on the register will receive a proof-of-relationship certificate that will be recognised by government agencies in Victoria and also the courts.

"In Tasmania, unmarried same and opposite-sex couples can access parenting rights in areas like adoption by registering their relationship," Mr Croome said.

"Just as importantly, we urge both the Victorian and Tasmanian Governments to ensure they offer reciprocal recognition to each other's schemes so that registered couples have full spousal entitlements regardless of which side of Bass Strait they reside."

Mr Croome said many same-sex couples in Tasmania had reported increased acceptance from their families following the registering of their relationships.

The Victorian Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission described the proposed Victorian register as a critical step in reducing discrimination.
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Re: Victoria gets defacto gay marriages
Reply #2 - Apr 24th, 2007 at 4:11pm
 
Gays make up 1 - 3 % of the population.

Why do they have so much ......... leverage ?
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Reply #3 - Apr 24th, 2007 at 4:15pm
 
Because it is an equal rights issue, which everybody can empathise with.
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Labor backs legal rights for same-sex couples
Reply #4 - Apr 30th, 2007 at 9:32am
 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/labor-backs-legal-rights-for-samesex-couples/2007/04/28/1177459995793.html

LABOR has backed a national scheme to legally recognise same-sex relationships after a divisive debate at its national conference in which opponents of the scheme warned that it would demean marriage and the family and hurt the party's electoral prospects.
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Reply #5 - May 1st, 2007 at 2:35am
 
Man... I hate Steve Bracks.
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Reply #6 - May 1st, 2007 at 10:52am
 
Equal rights.

Yes, we all deserve equal rights.

Some deserve rights more equal than others.   Smiley

(A partial quote from "Animal farm" )
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Govt may change gay pension laws
Reply #7 - Jul 12th, 2007 at 7:57pm
 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Govt-may-change-gay-pension-laws/2007/07/12/1183833673968.html

The federal government has held talks with gay activists to discuss changing the law to give same-sex couples the same rights as heterosexual couples.

The meeting comes after High Court judge Michael Kirby asked Attorney-General Philip Ruddock to change the judicial pension scheme so his long-term partner Johan van Vloten is treated the same as the spouse of a heterosexual judge.

Justice Kirby's case has highlighted the conclusion of a report by the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission that more than 20,000 gay Australian couples face systematic discrimination on a daily basis.
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Reply #8 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 12:06am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2007 at 7:57pm:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Govt-may-change-gay-pension-laws/2007/07/12/1183833673968.html

The federal government has held talks with gay activists to discuss changing the law to give same-sex couples the same rights as heterosexual couples.

The meeting comes after High Court judge Michael Kirby asked Attorney-General Philip Ruddock to change the judicial pension scheme so his long-term partner Johan van Vloten is treated the same as the spouse of a heterosexual judge.

Justice Kirby's case has highlighted the conclusion of a report by the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission that more than 20,000 gay Australian couples face systematic discrimination on a daily basis.


Sickening. I don't mind gays THAT much.... but that's just sick. Why are people pushing this krap forward?
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Reply #9 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 10:36am
 
How are equal rights sickening? How would you even notice if they got these rights?
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Reply #10 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 12:37pm
 
It's terrible the way gays have been vilified over the past few years.  For so long they fought for their rights - they get them and now a change of government is eliminating them.

Justice Kirby has a point - why should his pension just disappear into thin air when all the other judges who die can leave their lucrative pension to their wives.  He's been in a relationship for many years and worked hard for his money, so why isn't his "spouse" entitled to it - like any other spouse?

Spouse means - husband, wife, partner or mate.
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Reply #11 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 3:11pm
 
Do gay men have the right to have children in Australia..just wondering?


In America they do.

Im wondering if gay men having children in theyre care is in the best interest of the child.!

By that I mean school peers not understanding and confused gender roles as they grow to adulthood.
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Reply #12 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 3:24pm
 
It depends on what you mean by 'have.'
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Re: Victoria gets defacto gay marriages
Reply #13 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 5:17pm
 
i dont know whgat all the complaining is about, gay people have the same marriage rights as everyone else, a gay man can marry any woman he wants Cheesy.
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Reply #14 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 8:20pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2007 at 3:24pm:
It depends on what you mean by 'have.'



I guess i mean..is it appropriate for gay men to have children in theyre care?

many pple dont agree with it..I guess there are reasons.


Soem gay men use surrogacy to have a baby. This somehow doesnt seem right to me.

For lots of different reasons
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