Why thank you IQ.  Dunno what happened to Aussie - he's not around to congratulate me.

Crikey, what a load of bollocks.  By the way, were the Jihad sheilas just about to board planes with one way tickets?

This is great news FD...now for Scott Rush and the others.

Will this cause a problem I wonder with the population of Indonesia itself..?

By that I mean an undermining of their own judicial system .? This may set a precedent, but maybe a precedence doesnt mean much under Indonesian law!

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Only that the Indonesian Judges  themselves have always emphatically denounced any kind of deviation from the actual process of Indonesian style justice.

They did make a great display of taking a hardline on foreign drug traffickers

And that they were so harsh with Schappelle Corby.[[ no they didnt hang/shoot her, but 20 yrs is ridiculous]]

This is a little surprising I think.

The Bali Bombers dont deserve any softening of laws for what they did.

So, haneef lost did he ??
thought he may do the trick the indian cricket team did when they disagreed with the umpire.
Threaten to go home.

Who pays for all this legal talk ?? My taxes

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They were originally sentenced to life prisonment. This was reduced on appeal to 20 years. The prosecution appealed the leniency of the reduction and won. They were sentenced to death. This latest decision has now reverted the sentence back to life because the defence argued that the death penalty was not the original sentence sought by the prosecution nor was it the penalty the prosecution asked for when they appealed.

20 years for importating the quantity of (high grade) cannabis caught on Corby may sound ridiculous in Australia but is quite standard for Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore. In fact, everyone knows that the penalty is death.

The sad things about Corby (and given the alledged corruption within the Indo court system) Corby could have gotten out a lot earlier. Sure, the sentence was 20 years, but after appeal she could have likely gotten a lighter sentence. Corby's case was hardly reported in Indonesia. Therefore, most indonesians did not know about the case. However, the uproar by the Australian public, anti-Indonesian sentiments, letter writings condemning Indonesia as barbaric, Indonesian shops damaged, white powdery substance sent to the Indonesian consulate, Sydney shock jock comparing the judges to monkeys "they don't even speak English, they're straight out of the trees" were reported (understandably). This raised mutually anti-Australian sentiment by the Indonesian public causing the courts to steel themselves to any leniency. Diplomacy is mostly about face-saving (especially in the Asian region). Unfortunately, Australia does not understand the ethos of South East Asia despite being part of the region.

Why do you think Michelle Lesley and DJ Nick Taylor got such lenient sentences? Sure, the quantity they had are significantly less but compare 3 months jail to 20 years. Very little publicity, the Indonesian courts are seen to be tough on drugs but later the sentence will be reduced. However, treat them with arrogance and disdain and you'll get very little sympathy back. Especially, when Australia is largely (rightly or not) seen as a racist country by Asian.

http://news.theage.com.au/haneef-probe-8-million-cost-blowout/20080404-23ku.html


Greens Senator Kerry Nettle tabled the original question about the Haneef investigation, and on Friday said she had tabled a second question in parliament asking the AFP to detail what the officers were doing.

"I think it's concerning that there are so many people involved in the Haneef investigation," she told AAP.

"I want to know what those people are doing, I want to know if there's still a witch hunt and I want to know if the AFP are trying to justify the way they treated Haneef by finding something further to link him to what happened in England."








This could be the AFP's way of avoiding answering questions at the inquiry on the grounds of National Security and jeapodising an "ongoing investigations".

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The Greens have every right to comment because this has been a witch hunt.  Haneef has been cleared by the highest Court of Law in the land and had his visa returned, so he is lawfully entitled to his freedom.

Why aren't the AFP using some of these resources to lay charges on the executives and directors of the AWB who have already been determined to be complicit in the heinous crime of enabling acts of terrorism?