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Marriage according to the Bible
Jul 5th, 2007 at 6:47pm
 
Sorry, I only know the Bible, so it is the only source I can use.
But please post any other spiritual words concerning marriage.
As well as these I'll google for a few more.



"The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.
The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband.
In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife.
Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer.
Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control."

1 Corinthians 7:3-5



"Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.
Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.
In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies.
He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church— for we are members of his body.
"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh."
This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church.
However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

Ephesians 5:22,33

(Some of Pauls stuff get a bit ....confusing like that)




"Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives.
Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes.
Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight.
For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful.
They were submissive to their own husbands, like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her master. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear.
Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers."

1 Peter 3:1-7



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Re: Marriage according to the Bible
Reply #1 - Jul 5th, 2007 at 8:13pm
 
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Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.  


Why don't husbands have to submit themselves?

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In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies


Sounds like an excuse for sex - considering the woman often doesn't have an equal drive - this is a bit unfair.

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Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives.  

Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes.  Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight.  

For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful.  

They were submissive to their own husbands, like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her master. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear.  

Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers."


The bible definitely needs updating and I would hope that no man would take those words literally.  Is wives plural because it was OK to have more than one wife?

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Re: Marriage according to the Bible
Reply #2 - Jul 5th, 2007 at 8:52pm
 
Hi mantra ,
Pretty fair comments you make. To be honest, I anticipated a more vitriolic response .
Though that was not my intention.


yes, the word submit was always going to raise some heckles. But would be untrue of me to put just the "nice" bits.

I guess, it can't be that wives submit to husbands and husbands submit to wives ?
There is an responsibility the husband is to take, in his side of a marriage.  "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church ...." , which is a complete and utter form of love.
A husband that loves that way will do anything and everything for his wife all the time.


I find the beauty of a woman does not come from her clothing or jewellery, rather from within.
That usage of the words 'wives" I believe means one wife per husband. he says "husbands" just prior to that.
Here is a bit about one wife/husband
"Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry.But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband. "
1 Corinthians 7:1,2

This was in a time where many wives were the social norm. Pretty ground breaking stuff really.
Logically, since there are about as many women as men, how can men have more than one wife ???
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Reply #3 - Jul 5th, 2007 at 9:14pm
 
christianity actually requires the husband serve his wife the a greater extent than the other way around, if you take the term "head" or "leader" in context of the bible it references the ideas of servitude.

in rgeards to sex both the husband and wife are obligated to give themselves to the other unless there is a good reason not to.

and a husband does not own his wife, i dont know how many times, christianity teaches that marriage is a partnership each with their own roles but equal in worth none the less.

and the bible cannot be updated, what is truth does not change through time. you cannot be a prot modern christian, if you believe in jesus you believe that you know absolutly that he is the way the truth and the light. thats not to say you dont have doubts on days etc, i mean that you dont go into "this is my truth" business, there is only one truth.
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Reply #4 - Jul 6th, 2007 at 6:49pm
 
This is good.  Gutsy stuff.



"With the kind permission of the Manataka American Indian Council and Native American Indian wedding coordinator Lee Standing Bear Moore, the following is an explanation of the Rite of Seven Steps and the Native American wedding vows that might be stated during the ceremony.

Both bride and groom take seven steps sunwise (clockwise) around the sacred fire. For each step taken, a vow is said by each. The groom makes one step forward and says a vow, and then the bride takes a step to join him and says her vow until one round around the fire is completed. Family and friends join hands in a circle around the fire.

A variation of the Rite of Seven Steps ceremony has the couple exchanging gifts after each step to signify each vow given. Example: kernels of corn represent fertility and growth, a feather stands for truth and loyalty, a stone stands for strength, solidarity and wisdom. The vows shown below are only an example of words that may be recited, however, you should consider writing your own vows.

GROOM STEP 1: O’ my beloved, our love has become firm by your walking one with me. Together we will share the responsibilities of the lodge, food and children. May the Creator bless noble children to share. May they live long.

BRIDE STEP 1: This is my commitment to you, my husband. Together we will share the responsibility of the home, food and children. I promise that I shall discharge all my share of the responsibilities for the welfare of the family and the children.

GROOM STEP 2: O’ my beloved, now you have walked with me the second step. May the Creator bless you. I will love you and you alone as my wife. I will fill your heart with strength and courage: this is my commitment and my pledge to you. May God protect the lodge and children.

BRIDE STEP 2: My husband, at all times I shall fill your heart with courage and strength. In your happiness I shall rejoice. May God bless you and our honorable lodge.

GROOM STEP 3: O my beloved, now since you have walked three steps with me, our wealth and prosperity will grow. May God bless us. May we educate our children and may they live long.

BRIDE STEP 3: My husband, I love you with single-minded devotion as my husband. I will treat all other men as my brothers. My devotion to you is pure and you are my joy. This is my commitment and pledge to you.

GROOM STEP 4: O’ my beloved, it is a great blessing that you have now walked four steps with me. May the Creator bless you. You have brought favor and sacredness in my life.

BRIDE STEP 4: O my husband, in all acts of righteousness, in material prosperity, in every form of enjoyment, and in those divine acts such as fire sacrifice, worship and charity, I promise you that I shall participate and I will always be with you.

GROOM STEP 5: O’ my beloved, now you have walked five steps with me. May the Creator make us prosperous. May the Creator bless us.

BRIDE STEP 5: O my husband, I will share both in your joys and sorrows. Your love will make me very happy.

GROOM STEP 6: O’ my beloved, by walking six steps with me, you have filled my heart with happiness. May I fill your heart with great joy and peace, time and time again. May the Creator bless you.

BRIDE STEP 6: My husband, the Creator blesses you. May I fill your heart with great joy and peace. I promise that I will always be with you.

GROOM STEP 7: O’ my beloved goddess, as you have walked the seven steps with me, our love and friendship have become inseparable and firm. We have experienced spiritual union in God. Now you have become completely mine. I offer my total self to you. May our marriage last forever.

BRIDE STEP 7: My husband, by the law of the Creator, and the spirits of our honorable ancestors, I have become your wife. Whatever promises I gave you I have spoken them with a pure heart. All the spirits are witnesses to this fact. I shall never deceive you, nor will I let you down. I shall love you forever."

http://www.westchester-weddings.com/wedding_vows_native_american.asp


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